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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My son, who is a junior in HS kid, plays football and does track. We've agreed to whey protein, creatine, and beta-alanine. They are all 3rd party tested and, based on all current science, are safe and are considered to work. With a sample size of 1, he's quite the beast. He works out a lot and has been able to put on quite a bit of muscle, increased strength, speed, and vertical jump. It certainly could all be coincidence...but I'll allow him to keep it going. This actually has me thinking...lots of parents like to talk about how we drank out of hoses and did this and did that and brag about how they are fine, but freak out if their kid researches and proposes something that has been scientifically proven to be beneficial with little to zero side effects.  [/quote]

I am not talking about these things. I am talking about things that stimulates the production of hgh, etc.

See this:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/15/health/peptides-unregulated-influencers

https://www.afr.com/life-and-luxury/health-and-wellness/catastrophic-teenagers-as-young-as-14-buying-peptides-online-20260115-p5nu8a

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/peptides-from-instagram-china-wellness-cure.html

Excerpt from the link above:

[quote]According to a source at one of New York’s elite prep schools, peptide use is rampant among students. They buy the compounds from TikTok influencers and hide the vials from their parents in mini-fridges they keep in their bedrooms. Students circulate TikToks, such as one in which a young woman stashes vials of peptides in what seems to be her family fridge, captioned “when ur mini fridge breaks so now u gotta hide ur peps behind sum ranch.” In another clip, a teenage user with the bio “16 year old on Mexican research chemicals” poses with a dog-ears filter. The onscreen text: “‘No bro we’re way too young to be pinning peptides’… …Translating 🔁 … ‘… Glory to the state of Israel! Long Live Benjamin Netanyahu!🇮🇱’”

The phenomenon known as “looksmaxxing” takes the peptide hype cycle past the point of absurdity. The subculture is built on a grim premise: Looks are destiny, and only those willing to undergo the most extreme interventions will win in work, dating, and life. Though women participate, this philosophy is geared ultimately toward the vanities and neuroses of young men. Looksmaxxers have developed their own language: “mogging” means out-classing someone’s appearance, to “ascend” is to transform your looks, and the “PSL scale” (an acronym referencing defunct looksmaxxing forums) ranks people from “subhuman” to “giga chad.” Peptides are ubiquitous. “Looksmaxxing is mostly about visible optimization and speeding up aesthetic results, so peptides get pulled in as tools that promise faster fat loss, better skin, and improved recovery,” said a 22-year-old college student I met in Ramsay’s Discord for peptide enthusiasts. “That’s where people like Clavicular come in, translating peptides into an aesthetic-first language that resonates with that crowd.”[/quote]

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