Anonymous wrote:Real men are natty. The rest are weak - sayeth my 16 year old DS.

Anonymous wrote:lol. peptides are the building blocks of proteins. If you eat protein, you're consuming peptides.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Of course I am not allowing this. I just wanted to discuss what seems like a trend right now.

Anonymous wrote:Real men are natty. The rest are weak - sayeth my 16 year old DS.

This is pretty much what my college ds told my peptide-seeking teen.

Ask him which ones he's interested in and look into them. You know your kid the best. Mine had a protein powder phase, which I supported by buying what I chose, but it has passed. There are lots of supplements out there that we're not so knowledgeable about as medicine is pushed. Not all of it is bad.

What I am talking about goes beyond protein powder and creatine. Those are old hat in this house. I am talking about things like MK-766 and other number/letter combos. They are often banned substances too when it comes to serious sports.

Honestly, the stuff that is being pushed on young women is far more damaging and extensive. Study after study has proven that the overwhelmingly negative effects of this tik tok instacrap on young women far exceeds the damage and negative effects on any other demographic, including the "manosphere"

This isn't a thread about young women. It is about boys. And it is not a competition. I will say you seem to disregard the manosphere influence out of some ignorance.

Anonymous wrote:My son, who is a junior in HS kid, plays football and does track. We've agreed to whey protein, creatine, and beta-alanine. They are all 3rd party tested and, based on all current science, are safe and are considered to work. With a sample size of 1, he's quite the beast. He works out a lot and has been able to put on quite a bit of muscle, increased strength, speed, and vertical jump. It certainly could all be coincidence...but I'll allow him to keep it going. This actually has me thinking...lots of parents like to talk about how we drank out of hoses and did this and did that and brag about how they are fine, but freak out if their kid researches and proposes something that has been scientifically proven to be beneficial with little to zero side effects.

According to a source at one of New York’s elite prep schools, peptide use is rampant among students. They buy the compounds from TikTok influencers and hide the vials from their parents in mini-fridges they keep in their bedrooms. Students circulate TikToks, such as one in which a young woman stashes vials of peptides in what seems to be her family fridge, captioned “when ur mini fridge breaks so now u gotta hide ur peps behind sum ranch.” In another clip, a teenage user with the bio “16 year old on Mexican research chemicals” poses with a dog-ears filter. The onscreen text: “‘No bro we’re way too young to be pinning peptides’… …Translating 🔁 … ‘… Glory to the state of Israel! Long Live Benjamin Netanyahu!🇮🇱’”

The phenomenon known as “looksmaxxing” takes the peptide hype cycle past the point of absurdity. The subculture is built on a grim premise: Looks are destiny, and only those willing to undergo the most extreme interventions will win in work, dating, and life. Though women participate, this philosophy is geared ultimately toward the vanities and neuroses of young men. Looksmaxxers have developed their own language: “mogging” means out-classing someone’s appearance, to “ascend” is to transform your looks, and the “PSL scale” (an acronym referencing defunct looksmaxxing forums) ranks people from “subhuman” to “giga chad.” Peptides are ubiquitous. “Looksmaxxing is mostly about visible optimization and speeding up aesthetic results, so peptides get pulled in as tools that promise faster fat loss, better skin, and improved recovery,” said a 22-year-old college student I met in Ramsay’s Discord for peptide enthusiasts. “That’s where people like Clavicular come in, translating peptides into an aesthetic-first language that resonates with that crowd.”

Anonymous wrote:Mine too OP and I’m a researcher in nutrition. But Tik Tok knows more than I do of course.

Anonymous wrote:My son, who is a junior in HS kid, plays football and does track. We've agreed to whey protein, creatine, and beta-alanine. They are all 3rd party tested and, based on all current science, are safe and are considered to work. With a sample size of 1, he's quite the beast. He works out a lot and has been able to put on quite a bit of muscle, increased strength, speed, and vertical jump. It certainly could all be coincidence...but I'll allow him to keep it going. This actually has me thinking...lots of parents like to talk about how we drank out of hoses and did this and did that and brag about how they are fine, but freak out if their kid researches and proposes something that has been scientifically proven to be beneficial with little to zero side effects.

Anonymous wrote:Real men are natty. The rest are weak - sayeth my 16 year old DS.

Ask him which ones he's interested in and look into them. You know your kid the best. Mine had a protein powder phase, which I supported by buying what I chose, but it has passed. There are lots of supplements out there that we're not so knowledgeable about as medicine is pushed. Not all of it is bad.

Honestly, the stuff that is being pushed on young women is far more damaging and extensive. Study after study has proven that the overwhelmingly negative effects of this tik tok instacrap on young women far exceeds the damage and negative effects on any other demographic, including the "manosphere"