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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sometimes I find people calling others toxic are actually the toxic ones (not to get too DARVO about it)[/quote]

My impression is that she wasn't calling the people toxic (except maybe one) but was saying the dynamic was toxic, with unspoken hierarchies and people being excluding and not communicating well.

I find that relatable. I was on the fringes of a friend group at one point where I genuinely liked a lot of the people in the group but the social dynamic just felt bad a lot. Not just for me but for others as well -- there was constantly drama with people feeling left out or certain things. There was also this cycle of gossip that people could not seem to curb. It never started as regular gossip, but as people talking about friends out of "concern." But this became a cover story for very nasty gossip (what starts as "I'm concerned about Kelly, she's so stressed with the twins and her husband doesn't to help at all" can become some people reveling in trashing Kelly's marriage and feeling smug about their own, even though you are still claiming not to be gossiping but just discussing her out of "concern"). It's gross.

It doesn't mean the people involved are inherently toxic. Sometimes the situation brings out the worst in people. Maybe it brought out the worst in Ashley and that was specifically why she decided to remove herself. I definitely felt better off once I had extracted myself from the group I was in like this, even though I think most of the people were good people. I wish I could have been friends with them under other circumstances.[/quote]

Wow so much response to my one little sentence. Clearly hit a nerve with you. Ashley did call out toxicity, which is what I said. And she's MAGA so bye girl. Unleashed article for everyone to read: https://archive.ph/uuSMe[/quote]

I do have lots of thoughts on this! I have been through something similar so yes, it strikes a nerve and I have a lot of thoughts on it. I just disagree with your viewpoint. She called the group toxic, not the individuals. I found your comment overly simplistic based on what she wrote.

And she's not MAGA -- not being excited when a person is murdered in front of a crowd of people doesn't make you MAGA, even if that person is Charlie Kirk. She stated clearly that she disagreed with Kirk's views but was just horrified by the violence. [/quote]

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