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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s the psych sheet for KLI, which gives a comparison point for what it takes to be top 16 and get a 2nd swim at finals at these meets. I have a 13-14 swimmer going to KLI and in all of her events a sectional cut will be needed to make the A final.

https://www.gomotionapp.com/pvma/__eventform__/1489909_b7ccbcaf-7cd8-47e2-aa13-c43d0d21776d.pdf[/quote]

Holy crap. That is a MUCH faster meet. [/quote]

KLI has long been a deeper meet.  However, this year there aren’t the standouts at the top of the Winter Classic (State, NCAA, Olympic Champs) that there have been in years past.  [/quote]

Some of the fast 13/15 and senior Mako girls left for NCAP this year. [/quote]

Many of the elite York young kids left.  There isn’t a standout club from the northeast this year either. [/quote]

Even after the departure of some strong swimmers, York still has the top-seeded 11-12 boys free relays in both 200 and 400.[/quote]

Yes, the point is this year’s 11-12 200 free relay seed time is three seconds slower than last year.  Partially because last year included two 11 year-olds that are no longer with York. [/quote]

And still faster than Makos, Marlins, and AAC.[/quote]

Makos are much slower than last year.  Mostly because their elite kid aged up.  [/quote]

It looks like 3+ of Makos’ best 13+ swimmers moved to NCAP this year.[/quote]

Makos is a decent team but I think if a kid is really committed you need a large cohort to push you at practice and it is in your interest to be on a team that attends the better meets.  The meets that are going to push you.[/quote]

Unless a kid is winning every event with ease, which doesn't look like it will be the case for any PVS age grouper, a meet like winter classic, though not as fast as KLI, will push kids to get better.  It's good for them to develop self motivation too on their own timeframe.  Kids who learn to work hard when no one is looking or when no one else is pushing them will go far.[/quote]

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