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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s the psych sheet for KLI, which gives a comparison point for what it takes to be top 16 and get a 2nd swim at finals at these meets. I have a 13-14 swimmer going to KLI and in all of her events a sectional cut will be needed to make the A final.

https://www.gomotionapp.com/pvma/__eventform__/1489909_b7ccbcaf-7cd8-47e2-aa13-c43d0d21776d.pdf[/quote]

Holy crap. That is a MUCH faster meet. [/quote]

KLI has long been a deeper meet.  However, this year there aren’t the standouts at the top of the Winter Classic (State, NCAA, Olympic Champs) that there have been in years past.  [/quote]

Some of the fast 13/15 and senior Mako girls left for NCAP this year. [/quote]

Many of the elite York young kids left.  There isn’t a standout club from the northeast this year either. [/quote]

Even after the departure of some strong swimmers, York still has the top-seeded 11-12 boys free relays in both 200 and 400.[/quote]

Yes, the point is this year’s 11-12 200 free relay seed time is three seconds slower than last year.  Partially because last year included two 11 year-olds that are no longer with York.

And JFC the panties in a twist over the calling a kid elite because they are elite by any measure of the word relative to their peers, but not compared to Gretchen Walsh at age 22.  Chill out.  Not everybody thinks their elementary schooler, no matter how good, is the next Torri Huske.  [/quote]

They are not elite.  Full stop.  Stop saying it.  They are strong swimmers.

I am with all the comments from other posters, elite is not a term for a young swimmer for all the reasons stated above but also because there are a lot less young swimmers to compare them to so the motivational standards are not as solid.  Most younger kids are still learning to swim, have not opted to start swimming competitively yet, etc.  So you have this 11&U field that has not filled out.  Then you have an influx of part time swimmers who start taking it seriously that enter the swimming world and knock out those strong swimmers.  Then the swim circle of life goes full circle with many kids (some really fast ones) leaving the sport in their teens because they would rather have a life than chase a black line up and down a pool.[/quote]

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