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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hm, know a few summa cum laude 4.2+ GPA engineering grads from Cornell.  They were in frats and had fun social lives too.[/quote]

summa cum laude in engineering does not mean they did not study very hard and put in the time. You cannot coast and get summa cum laude at a true tough school in Engineering. As the PP said, MIT students often party. My kid parties at a different ivy. They also work hard and efficiently in and outside of class. Their almost perfect GPA does not tell the tale of the hours and effort that go into balancing studies, research, job, as well as sleep and time for fun and clubs. 
A good friend was a premed at a grade inflated ivy. The kid busted their tail every single semester, and got summa cum laude and is at a different ivy for med school no gap year. To be the top 5-10-15% at a top school is extremely difficult regardless of inflation. People who conflate a high GPA or mock grade inflation do not understand how rigorous top schools are. The psets, exams, reading requirements, lab writeups re much more intense than schools 10-20 spots down. The peer group is insane, even with 1/3 hooked kids who are weaker--they often are not in engineering or premed or econ or any other weedout major. [/quote]

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