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Anonymous wrote:SEAS stands for School of Engineering and Applied Science at UPenn and Columbia but the engineering school at Cornell is just called the College of Engineering or just Cornell Engineering.

SEAS is what Harvard is as well.

And? This thread is about Cornell engineering....

Anonymous wrote:SEAS stands for School of Engineering and Applied Science at UPenn and Columbia but the engineering school at Cornell is just called the College of Engineering or just Cornell Engineering.

SEAS is what Harvard is as well.

Anonymous wrote:Hm, know a few summa cum laude 4.2+ GPA engineering grads from Cornell. They were in frats and had fun social lives too.

summa cum laude in engineering does not mean they did not study very hard and put in the time. You cannot coast and get summa cum laude at a true tough school in Engineering. As the PP said, MIT students often party. My kid parties at a different ivy. They also work hard and efficiently in and outside of class. Their almost perfect GPA does not tell the tale of the hours and effort that go into balancing studies, research, job, as well as sleep and time for fun and clubs.
A good friend was a premed at a grade inflated ivy. The kid busted their tail every single semester, and got summa cum laude and is at a different ivy for med school no gap year. To be the top 5-10-15% at a top school is extremely difficult regardless of inflation. People who conflate a high GPA or mock grade inflation do not understand how rigorous top schools are. The psets, exams, reading requirements, lab writeups re much more intense than schools 10-20 spots down. The peer group is insane, even with 1/3 hooked kids who are weaker--they often are not in engineering or premed or econ or any other weedout major.

Anonymous wrote:Look, as an MIT grad - you aren't actually at a hard school if you aren't studying all the time. Just a fact of life. That doesn't mean we didn't party after midterms (we did) or that we didn't have other things like research, jobs, Greek life, sports. We just took academics very seriously.

The person that posted that is in the suck. Everyone at MIT has that stairwell they cried in. IHTFP 4 evah

Truth per my ivy engineering kid. Almost always makes the A yet common tears/ angst after some very difficult exams that crush everyone (median 60-70% on purpose, filled with niche research based problems that do not have neat answers, they just want to see what you can do with the problem, high score could be in the low 80s).
At these tough schools, kids are all in it together, they cry together, work very hard, and party together when it is over, and know to shut up when one in the group really does bomb something.

Hm, know a few summa cum laude 4.2+ GPA engineering grads from Cornell. They were in frats and had fun social lives too.

Anonymous wrote:My DC is graduating in engineering from a top school and I will say he had to seek out his own internship and job. The school didn’t give either one to him. So don’t expect everything is handed over just because you go to one of the best schools.

This is true at MIT too. I had to work for years to get experience at other research labs to then get a lowly undergrad position at one of the top labs in the world because everyone applied for those positions. No one was handing me internships.

Look, as an MIT grad - you aren't actually at a hard school if you aren't studying all the time. Just a fact of life. That doesn't mean we didn't party after midterms (we did) or that we didn't have other things like research, jobs, Greek life, sports. We just took academics very seriously.

The person that posted that is in the suck. Everyone at MIT has that stairwell they cried in. IHTFP 4 evah

My DC is graduating in engineering from a top school and I will say he had to seek out his own internship and job. The school didn’t give either one to him. So don’t expect everything is handed over just because you go to one of the best schools.

Anonymous wrote:Cornell Engineering is like TJ.
Not competitive between the students. But if you dont have STEM IQ (meaning you just need to be naturally good at math, physics, CS) grades are going to suffer, and every HW and Exam is going to be a struggle.

It’s hard to tell who is naturally good at something these days. I say this as an Asian immigrant who went through a very rigorous foundational education. I’ve also noticed a lot of grooming within Asian immigrant communities in the United States. While I understand your point, I also see significant burnout at the college level or work place. The lack of passion in these fields are quite obvious. Many of these students probably shouldn’t be in STEM to begin with, but they choose these majors because of the pressure tied to earning potential.

Cornell Engineering is like TJ.

Not competitive between the students. But if you dont have STEM IQ (meaning you just need to be naturally good at math, physics, CS) grades are going to suffer, and every HW and Exam is going to be a struggle.

Anonymous wrote:I Have a high performing engineering kid. Engineering is stressful all around, but Cornell and Carnegie Mellon seem to make engineering much more stressful than it needs to be.

He ultimately chose elsewhere. You can get the same quality education at other schools without the Hunger Games environment that Cornell and CMU are promoting. The deans of those programs are just… I guess I can’t use the words I really want to use.

But the way Cornell and CMU are going about things should give every smart kid pause.

Cornell engineering doesn’t have a Hunger Games environment.

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Anonymous wrote:SEAS and Dyson are THE two best programs Cornell offers, crown jewel. It's comparable to Michigan's Ross and engineering. To me those are the only two reasons to go to Cornell. You can easily find better programs at many other colleges, outside SEAS and Dyson.

Ok, and? No one GAF what you think.

Exactly what I was thinking

SEAS stands for School of Engineering and Applied Science at UPenn and Columbia but the engineering school at Cornell is just called the College of Engineering or just Cornell Engineering.

Anonymous wrote:SEAS and Dyson are THE two best programs Cornell offers, crown jewel. It's comparable to Michigan's Ross and engineering. To me those are the only two reasons to go to Cornell. You can easily find better programs at many other colleges, outside SEAS and Dyson.

What is SEAS?

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Anonymous wrote:SEAS and Dyson are THE two best programs Cornell offers, crown jewel. It's comparable to Michigan's Ross and engineering. To me those are the only two reasons to go to Cornell. You can easily find better programs at many other colleges, outside SEAS and Dyson.

Nolan is THE premiere school in the world for hotel administration and hospitality. If this is what you want to study, you cannot find better programs at other colleges. Cornell is the top school.


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Agriculture school as well. No. 1 program. But these are niche programs.

Sure. But the post was in response to someone saying that other than Engineering and Dyson, there’s no reason to apply to Cornell. CALS and Nolan are two other reasons.

Add Industrial and Labor Relations at Cornell. Another number 1 program.