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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh god, have you seen parent swim team culture? It is the worst. Lots of SAHMs with too much time on their hands inventing "necessary" volunteer tasks like making dumbass gift bags and pressuring other moms to volunteer. You have to set out chairs, time races, etc. if he does not want to do it, let it go. Plus at ten, most of the kids will have been doing it a couple years and he might be the odd guy out.

Sign him up for more lessons, though. Give him the option between group or private. He needs to be able to swim better than that.[/quote]

What?   It’s always been an all volunteer thing and you have to do your part.   It’s not just sahp.   This kid cannot swim so it’s silly.  [/quote]

do your part? timing races, sure. putting together stupid gift bags and organizing overly elaborate "banquets"? no. not necessary.[/quote]

You lumped in setting out chairs and timing with making the gift bags. Do what you feel adds value, say no to what you think doesn’t add value and stop complaining. [/quote]

So the problem is that the sahms that create make work then like to complain that THEY have volunteered X hours so everyone else should work X hours. But if we just cut down the stupid make-work, we would all have to volunteer fewer hours.

I'm guessing you are the SAHM that likes to gossip about the moms who "don't do enough" as you tie little bows around some gift bag crap.[/quote]

Full time (60 hour/week) professional here. I don’t find volunteering to be difficult. I officiate almost every meet. Stop with the SAHM crap. Every one of the parents who volunteers for our swim team — including the team reps, which so far superior in hours to any other volunteer role — works full time. We are not a pool of SAH parents.[/quote]
+1

I can’t speak for other pools, but I’d also point out that at our pool, configuring the pool deck for a meet involves a lot more than “setting up chairs”. The whole deck has to be rearranged and other equipment has to be taken out and set up, usually late on a Friday in time for an early Saturday am (or in a short window on a Monday). It’s a significant amount of work. Parents helping the coaches with this makes it go so much faster. This isn't make work nor coddling teens, its about efficiencies. 
You are such an expert on something you’ve acknowledged you don’t participate in, yet continue to dismiss information from people that do. I’m also curious why you’re on this board. Do you have a club swimmer? If so, I certainly hope you’re volunteering there. 
Unlike any other sport I can think of, swimming requires a massive number of volunteers to run a single meet. It’s not make work, it literally can’t happen without them. And this is true at any level of the sport, not just summer swim leagues. [/quote]

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