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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oldest 2 boys are probably mean. They exclude other boys and hold weak ones in semi-open disdain. We didn’t teach them to be this way but it came to them naturally.

They’re not cruel, though. The funny thing is they’re rewarded for their behavior by the other boys and girls. [/quote]

And you know you have to rein it in, instead of writing that out as if you were proud of them?

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Disagree. They’re not cruel and it helps them socially. They were raised to be strong, so not sure why I’d try to teach them something different after all these years.

I am proud of their strength, and I should be. DH and I made choices to raise good men, and we got what we wanted. [/quote]

How does it show strength when they are disdainful of weaker children??? I see plenty of strong young men around my children's school and they have nothing to prove to anyone, no need to show off by bullying others.  I see kids like your sons and they don't look strong, they look ridiculous.  And if you're not sure why you'd teach your sons to be something other than "mean" (your words, in your first post), then you're probably beyond help. [/quote]

Good question. As DH explains it, boys need hierarchy. Our two oldest exclude those who try to buck it. I should have been more clear.

This forum has [b]a feminine take on protecting the weak[/b]. However, because my boys are strong, I don’t always agree with that reflex. Moms I know with strong sons think the way I do.  [/quote]

The idea of protecting the weak comes out of Christianity. If it weren't for a religion that exulted a guy who was willing to die the most humiliating death the Roman empire had available, nobody would be all about protecting the weak.

And I'd be terrified of living in a society with Roman ideals, where women are property. Wouldn't you?

I'm much happier to be from a specific sub-culture where hierarchy exists, but it exists [b]for the very purpose of protecting the weak[/b]. Strength isn't strength when it's used to build yourself up. That's just will-to-power. Strength is strength when it's used for the good of those who otherwise can't help themselves.

Or as someone who led the natural physical movement drive used to say (maybe still does, it's been years since I followed them), "Strong to be [b]useful.[/b]" This was a guy who trained Navy SEALs.[/quote]

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