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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Machine's Madeira site has evening practices[/quote]

Whats the coaching like there?  Do they have a good group of fast swimmer in this age group?[/quote]

How fast is fast? What time standards is your kid swimming and how close are they to 13?[/quote]

At least A times in every event.
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Honestly you might find that some tops clubs in Nova wouldn’t consider your swimmer for their most elite practice groups without multiple AA and some AAA times.

Definitely reach out to coaches and discuss your swimmer’s times and set up some visits with different clubs so you can try them out and see how your swimmer connects with certain coaches and feels about the workouts. [/quote]

+1 I would say if your swimmer has mostly A times they probably will not be considered for a high performance/elite group unless perhaps they JUST turned 11 and have AA+ in best events. If they are already 12 most elite groups are going to be full of kids at the AA-AAAA level in all events. [/quote]

Such a typical DCUM response.  :roll:  "Unless your kid is at the very top they just don't matter"

No, not all kids in "high performance" groups have AA-AAAA times. We swim for machine and HP for kids who are 11-12 does not mean kids have to have AA-AAAA times. Maybe name designation varies varies by club but I can't imagine most clubs have such a large number of kids with top times.

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Seriously??? Why are you putting words into folks mouths. No one said her kid didn’t matter just setting realistic expectations for practice group placement based upon times. Not sure where OP is moving from and the requirements to be in the most competitive practice groups at her current location but wanted her to be aware of what might constitute most competitive/elite practices groups at each age for many teams in this area.  Each team is obviously different so the most competitive group at one club might have higher or lower caliber swimmers than the most competitive group at another club. Thus the recommendation to reach out and talk with coaches.  They will know best where her swimmer fits. 
Our club’s 11-12 “most competitive” practice group certainly has [b]lots of kids with multiple AA, AAA times.[/b] [/quote]

"Lots of kids" is not the same as telling someone  "if your swimmer has mostly A times they probably will not be considered for a high performance/elite group unless perhaps they JUST turned 11". That is just laughable. To implies that all kids must have these times to even be considered for a HP group and that is simply not true. But in DCUM fashion you just love to make it sound like everything is so complex and only "top" performers can get into HP group. Seriously tell me which club has a HP group where all kids have AA times. Why is everyone so oddly competitive here?[/quote]

I don’t think it has anything to do with folks implying that some kids are better than others or that parents are being competitive here.  Just simply trying to help OP find a practice group that is a good fit for her swimmer’s current level.  It’s important for her kiddo to train with those who are maintaining similar paces and yardages. The definition of “elite” or “most competitive” is different from team to team and area to area so it’s important to figure out what is the right fit for her kid.  Practice schedule seems very important to OP and wouldn’t want them to look at practice schedules online and wrongly assume about placement until they talk to the coaches of those teams to see in fact what their requirements are for each group. 
We’ve moved several times with swimmers and the environments are VERY different. [/quote]

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