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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Machine's Madeira site has evening practices[/quote]

Whats the coaching like there?  Do they have a good group of fast swimmer in this age group?[/quote]

How fast is fast? What time standards is your kid swimming and how close are they to 13?[/quote]

At least A times in every event.
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Honestly you might find that some tops clubs in Nova wouldn’t consider your swimmer for their most elite practice groups without multiple AA and some AAA times.

Definitely reach out to coaches and discuss your swimmer’s times and set up some visits with different clubs so you can try them out and see how your swimmer connects with certain coaches and feels about the workouts. [/quote]

+1 I would say if your swimmer has mostly A times they probably will not be considered for a high performance/elite group unless perhaps they JUST turned 11 and have AA+ in best events. If they are already 12 most elite groups are going to be full of kids at the AA-AAAA level in all events. [/quote]

Such a typical DCUM response.  :roll:  "Unless your kid is at the very top they just don't matter"

No, not all kids in "high performance" groups have AA-AAAA times. We swim for machine and HP for kids who are 11-12 does not mean kids have to have AA-AAAA times. Maybe name designation varies varies by club but I can't imagine most clubs have such a large number of kids with top times.

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Seriously??? Why are you putting words into folks mouths. No one said her kid didn’t matter just setting realistic expectations for practice group placement based upon times. Not sure where OP is moving from and the requirements to be in the most competitive practice groups at her current location but wanted her to be aware of what might constitute most competitive/elite practices groups at each age for many teams in this area.  Each team is obviously different so the most competitive group at one club might have higher or lower caliber swimmers than the most competitive group at another club. Thus the recommendation to reach out and talk with coaches.  They will know best where her swimmer fits. 
Our club’s 11-12 “most competitive” practice group certainly has lots of kids with multiple AA, AAA times. [/quote]
The poster you’re responding to referenced Machine, and they are generous with their high performance label for swimmers in the 12-14 age range. It doesn’t necessarily directly correspond to kids with super fast times, more so that those swimmers aren’t old enough for the senior groups yet so they are placed in high performance silver. All of this goes to show that it really is club dependent. In my swimmer’s 11-12 high performance group (not Machine) there are definitely swimmers with majority AA times with some AAA and AAAA times, but the majority of the swimmers in the group are not at that level. Those are the kids that will go on to be in the very top training group in HS, but you don’t have to be at that level for the MS high performance group. [/quote]

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