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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where did you get Top 100? What it takes to get into Top 100 is a far cry different than what it takes to get to Top 20. [/quote] I was being generous based on the fact the tween/teen forum seems to be ok with no EC's and B averages.[/quote] Do Top 100s actually take kids with no ECs and B averages? The top half of VA public universities (UVA, VA Tech, WM, and even JMU now) pretty much require top grades and ECs. [/quote] I know a kid who got into a top 50 school this year with excellent grades/rigor/test scores and essentially no ECs.[/quote] Mine got into several T40-60 schools with mediocre grades, good rigor, excellent SAT and pretty much one dedicated, non-academic EC. IMHO.. What's important to colleges: Level 1 - Grades, Rigor, Test Scores - The three legs of academic ability. You need all three to be top notch for the top/selective schools and at least two out of three to be top notch to get into lower-tier schools (T40-T60) level 2 - ECs Level 3 - Essays The lower the schools rankings, the less likely they are to really look beyond Tier 1. ECs and essays begin to matter far less once you cross the T40 mark. They do pretend to care and ask for them but if you read feedback in discussion forums and listen to what APs say at admission events, it's clear that they are not that critical. Several good schools in this range don't care about ECs or essays (Penn State, Ohio State, Rutgers, etc.). Tier 1 is kinda tricky with several schools still TO on paper and some folks vehemently argue that TO works just fine. I personally don't think so. Of course there are 'pockets of resistance' within some schools or in certain geographies where you find high selectivity for certain programs within a school (e.g. Virginia Tech Engineering or Business) or a school overall U-SC or BU. [/quote]
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