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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The people who do this are the same ones pissed off that recent studies by Stanford showed absolutely no impact of organic food on health outcomes.  They do it to say they give their children raw milk, whole foods, etc...they are insecure and needing to validate their parenting by thinking they are better parents because of choices like this.  [/quote]

I'm not a raw milk person, but to be clear on that Stanford study:
"Based on data from 237 previously conducted studies, the Stanford report concluded that when it comes to certain nutrients, there is not much difference between organic and conventionally grown food. But it also found that organic foods have 31 percent lower levels of pesticides, fewer food-borne pathogens and more phenols, a substance believed to help fight cancer." 
from http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/us/would-be-healthy-eaters-face-confusion-of-choices.html?pagewanted=all

And from the actual study: 
"Conclusion: The published literature lacks strong evidence that organic foods are significantly more nutritious than conventional foods. Consumption of organic foods may reduce exposure to pesticide residues and antibiotic-resistant bacteria."
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1355685
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It may be that organics are not more nutritious than conventionals, but most people I know who try to buy organics are more concerned about hormones, pesticides, etc. [/b]

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Exactly. I always find these studies ridiculous. Are there really people out there buying organic because they think it has more vitamins and minerals? I don't even see any organic producers or products making that claim. Moreover, I think a big difference even for those of us who think a little bit of pesticides with our peaches is no big deal PERSONALLY is that if we can afford it, we prefer to support organic farms because they are often better for the farmers (and the environment)-- the people who really have to worry about pesticides are not pregnant urban women or our children consuming non-organic produce, but for the people producing our foods and living near the sprayed farms with their families. Maybe I'm just hypersensitive after spending a significant amount of time running through cherry orchards during the early-a.m. pesticide spray as a teenager, though.  :wink: [/quote]

There was never any assumption in the study that people buy organic because they think the products have more vitamins or minerals.  They point was to determine if organic foods produce better health outcomes overall.  And there was no evidence that they do.  Let me clarify again -- organic farmers DO use pesticides -- ALL farmers use pesticides.  Organic farmers just use non-synthetic pesticides.  Higher levels of pesticides were found in those who ate non-organic foods...but that's not the point...the point was that the present of these pesticides apparently produced no worse health outcomes.  Perhaps there have been studies that have shown a link between non-synthetic and synthetic pesticides as to their effect on the environment -- this I don't know.  So, that would be a rational reason then to advocate for organic.  In any case, yes, I buy my son organic milk -- it just makes me feel better to do so.  So why doesn't everyone just say that?[/quote]

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