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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here. Thank you to everyone who gave a helpful, non-aggressive answer. The takeaway seems to be that DD can’t simply develop a spike and that it is just something people are born with. Whether this is true or not, people seem to think it’s best to just give up trying to get into a top school. This is disappointing as it’s been DD’s dream for a while. Am I getting the gist? [/quote]

I think the gist is be realistic. Is she truly the top 1-2% intelligence-wise? That's the typical range expected for unhooked admits, especially moving back to test required. Does she enjoy learning for learning's sake, take initiative, get excited about challenging classes and "hard" teachers? If so then [b]she will have a much better than average chance at T20 [/b]already. If she is naturally creative and caring then she will find 1-3 things she can dive deep into, and be able to write and discuss them with passion. She already has music: the creative piece. Encourage her to stick with it and dive deeper if she enjoys it. [/quote]

DP...keep in mine, the average chance is less than 3%, so really be realistic about the goals. the idea of T20 or bust is ridiculous. The Ivies, for example, range in curriculum types,  setting and geography. There is no logical reason, other than "prestige" that someone would apply to all of them.[/quote]

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