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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So you want to travel to some poor country and pay an impoverished woman to get pregnant and carry your child? That seems ethical to you?[/quote]

Bet you pay impoverished women to produce your adorbz housewares and clothing all the time. Hypocrite. [/quote]
You think producing clothing is the same effect on a body as carrying a child? Are you a man or something? No way a woman would compare these two. [/quote]

No, I'm not a man, and I've given birth.

But you're a hypocrite if you think that making money with your special sacred womb-chalice should be in a different category than people (men and women) wrecking their bodies performing punishing, unprotected manual labor, which is exactly what happens every single so that y'all can have your cute holiday decor and other consumer goods.

I'll never forget an article I read years ago about Indian surrogacy. The woman interviewed had literally been breaking rocks for a living before then. When asked if she felt exploited by surrogacy, she laughed politely and said "no, when I was breaking rocks for little money, [i]that [/i]was being exploited".

But then I also think that sex work should be legal, safe, and well-paid, so I doubt we'll agree on this one.[/quote]
I too agree that sex work is work. But [b]how do you value pregnancy and childbirth[/b]? Who decides? When people like OP "cant afford" to pay the rate here, they go elsewhere, looking for someone - anyone- who will accept what they want to pay. They dont want to pay to support these women or make the industry better, they want to pay as little as possible for someone else to put their life on the line for them to get a bio baby. It's not quite the same (to me). I'm not saying outlaw it, but I am saying there are issues people are choosing to ignore that are exploitative and harmful just to get some of their DNA in a mini-me. [/quote]

You value it as physical work that can imperil someone's health, that is full-time, that requires a great amount of commitment, and that can be unpredictable in its difficulty.

That describes other jobs that don't involve wombs, as well. A special preciousness about wombs (as opposed to other muscles) is, I think, worth questioning.[/quote]
Most other jobs arent 24/7 for 10 months, requiring medical tests, check ups, changes in diet etc. Pregnancy (not even including birth) means excluding certain foods, drinks, taking different vitamins and supplements. This isn't "oh its a 12h day thats hard", you cant go home and clock out of pregnancy. [/quote]

I totally agree -- it should be valued as a job that is 24/7, like working at McMurdo or the space station. [/quote]

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