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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nobody's going to talk about this?

There was an attack by Hamas gunmen at a West Bank checkpoint near Jerusalem. It was supposed to turn into a massacre on a big scale. Soldiers thwarted that and one soldier died in the process (five other soldiers injured).

It's starting to look like, "If you don't accept our terrorist attacks, we'll do MORE."[/quote]

Well that’s one less IDF soldier to terrorize/kill Palestinians. He should have chosen an occupation that doesn’t involve apartheid.  [/quote]

I am pro ceasefire. However, this sort of callous disregard for life will not get us to a peaceful solution, we need to work together to reach that position. We all need to start dousing this fire of hatred instead of adding more logs to it.[/quote]

The pro ceasefire side is made up of people who are either 1) pro Hamas, 2) anti Israel 3) anti semitic 4) perhaps well enough intentioned but biased people who are naive enough to think there can be (another) ceasefire in which Hamas doesn’t surrender. Most of the latter group are probably new to giving any sense of crap about the Arab Israeli conflict, get their news from sites ridden with misinformation like Twitter and Instagram, or heavily biased sources like the BBC or the NYT, and have no historical knowledge about the plethora of ceasefires Israel has made with Hamas and Hamas has broken, or of the multiple offers for a two state solution that Palestinians have rejected, time and again, because many extremists within their movement won’t accept the existence of Israel in any form, and because they start intifadas to stop the process each time.

After 10/7, hamas cannot be allowed to exist. It is (another) war crime that hamas have designed their infrastructure so that they cannot be reached without going through their civilian population to reach them.

I do believe, PP, that you are well intentioned and thank you for having humanity for life on both sides of the conflict. I just think your POV on a ceasefire is naive. [/quote]

+1 it can't be a ceasefire that only one side agrees to or will abide by. hamas wants as much death as possible - they have no reason to agree to a ceasefire. 
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