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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Prong collars are perfectly fine for some dogs. The real issue is that many(most?) owners don't know how to properly use them.[/quote] Op Wrong Wrong wrong![/quote] It's 100% accurate and true. You repeating "wrong" over and over doesn't change that at all. [/quote] op here. It isn't right. I just didn't have time to be articulate. My argument f you knew you dog than you wouldn't to hurt you dog to get it to listen. One of the main complains of positive training is that you are going to be forever giving treats. But no one ever says but you are going to have to keep using prong collars or shock collars! Then it seen as "just a tool in the toolbox" So what if I have to give treats. People with jobs like to get paid. Isn't that the same thing? But, Zak George talked about that..que the hate against Zak George I can't find it but it was on Facebook. [/quote]
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