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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]3 out of 4 of the schools in JKLM are still the best in terms of PARCC scores. Key and Janney are in top 5 for both ELA and Math. Ross is too, even though it's not JKLM, so maybe we should change it to JKLR :)
OP, what makes you think they are not sought after?

[b]Average ELA Score by School (Top 60 Schools)[/b]
School Without Walls High School 94.07
Benjamin Banneker High School 88.62
Janney Elementary School 88.19
Ross Elementary School 86.66
Key Elementary School 80.25

[b]Average Math Score by School (Top 60)[/b]
Stoddert Elementary School 83.05
Janney Elementary School 81.57
Lafayette Elementary School 81.36
Ross Elementary School 78.33
Key Elementary School 73.88[/quote]

With exception of magnet high schools at the top, the top scores are simply the richest and whitest schools. When you really break it down at most of the schools, they actually underperform compared to other non-JKLMs. Hint, check out the black student performance at Lafayette. [/quote]

To add…

Empower makes it very easy to drill it down. When looking at top performance for just White students, the rankings are as follows:

Math:
Payne 92%
Hyde Addison 90%
Maury
Banneker 
Tyler 
Stoddert
Murch 
Eliot Hine
SWW
Van Ness
Brent 
Key
Janney 
Deal
Bancroft
Jefferson 
Sojourner Truth
DC Bilingual 
Watkins 
Capital City
Oyster Adams
Inspired Teaching
Marie Reed
Shepherd 
LT
Eaton
Sela
Stokes
Mundo Verde 8th 75%

ELA
Walls 98%
Latin 95%
Deal
Ross
Payne 
Maury
Janney
DC Bilingual 
Bancroft 
Key
LT
Oyster 
Duke Ellington 
Lafayette 
Hardy
SH
Eaton
Two Rivers
McKinley 
Latin Cooper
Stoddert 
Jefferson 
Walls
Basis
Hyde Addison
Eastern 
Latin Middle
Lee
Hearst 
Murch 78%
JR
CHM
DCI
ITS
MV
Tyler 75%
Mann 69%

So again…and I’ve said this for years now, there is no “JKLM” those are just the schools that don’t have black and brown at risk kids that muddy their overall scores so their average 79-80% scores look really good overall but when you compare them citywide they are average at best. [/quote]

Gee, that makes sense—just filter out non-white kids.

What are you saying about skin color?  Are you that clueless?

And do you realize that there are only a handful of white kids at many of these schools?[/quote]

You’re not getting it. The point is that rich white students tend to perform well on standardized tests. Thus, when you get a school like Lafayette full of rich quote students of course it’s going to “seem” like a top school based on raw numbers. However, when you compare the white kids at Janney/Lafayette and the white kids a XYZ school in ward 6 and then you compare the black student performance at each school, you will quickly see that Lafayette (or input your favorite JKLM) is not the best school in the city. In fact, it’s not even to 10 when you compare apples to apples.

So I agree with OP, let’s stop saying JKLM because it doesn’t mean anything.[/quote]

Your point is that white students (who you apparently think are all "rich") do better than Black students so we should rate public schools in DC based on white numbers?

That's dumb.

1) Schools vary widely in racial composition.  For example, you mention Banneker.  That school has 550 kids, with maybe 20 white kids.  So, you are going to measure the school by the PARCC results of 4% of the student body, ignoring the the other 96%?  That  is ridiculous.

Plenty of Black students do great at Banneker but we should ignore their success because, according to you, only the standardized scores of whites should be considered?  No thanks.

2)  Asians do better than whites (and Blacks) on standardized tests.  Why not rate DC public schools based on Asian numbers?  By your logic, it makes even more sense.

For math, just looking at scores for Asians, the top public schools in DC are:

Stoddert
Yu Ying
Hearst
Mann
Marie-Reed
Latin
Murch
J-R

For ELA, just looking at scores for Asians, the top schools are:

Eaton
Stoddert
O-A
J-R
Lafayette
Murch
Mann
Marie-Reed
Murch
Latin
Seaton[/quote]

Not the point at all. The point is that “JKLM” do not have a set of kids that have hardships or adversity. The point is they better have high scores because of their demographics. They aren’t doing anything special. In fact, some of them are doing a disservice to some of their disadvantaged students compared to peers. Why are you intentionally being so dense?[/quote]

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