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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have been thinking about that thread recently. I have a degree from an Ivy and two graduate degrees from top schools and I make about $130,000 a year as a professor. I am vastly overqualified for my job at a third Tier institution although it works well with my family responsibilities.

My parents were extremely working class and the number one skill that I feel like I did not acquire as a child was the ability to advocate for myself. My parents are very timid and they have never stood up to an employer or asked for anything. The overwhelming sense I had as a child was that life was something that happened to you and [b]I remember being terribly surprised when I figured it out in graduate school, that other people had a vision for where they wanted to end up and that they were working to implement that vision. But to some degree it was already too late for me when I realize that other people had been doing that since they were 16. [/b]

A good school can only take you so far if you have no sense of agency or the ability to create their own life, and unfortunately most of us from poor and working class environments do not have that skill[/quote]

This! While I don't agree an Ivy is the end all be all, I also don't think that the argument of one person who didn't know how to use the Ivy League education / network equals an Ivy not being "worth it."

What does data say about well-compensated leaders coming from tiny schools versus big brand schools? I know people who graduated from schools DCUM would scoff at making $500K. I know many from Ivies who do normal jobs and earn amounts that some here would find to be too small. My thinking is that life success comes from your vision and the actions taken more than from a college you attended.

What PP said above relates to me. I had no idea people had visions for their future or that they set goals. That would have been useful to know. I didn't figure this out until after graduate school when I met someone in my field who appeared to have a plan and goals and was knocking them out one by one and racking up success after success. That person came from a wealthy family in a wealthy suburb.

The financial advantage can't be overstated. Ivies attract the rich so perhaps being rich is more important than what school you choose.

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