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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Virginia has a long history of being a southern state and has a deep history with southern culture and ties to the confederacy. Northern Virginia in particular, with the Arlington Cemetery’s connection with Robert E Lee, whom led the Army of Northern Virginia, and the wide spread usage of confederates like Stonewall Jackson High School in PWCS and Robert E Lee High School in FCPS seems to have continually played a part in modern Virginia history throughout the state. Not to mention highways and streets dedicated to Confederates and segregationists like Robert E Lee and Harry Byrd still remain.

This unique attatchment to our history seems to be most or entirely prevalent in Virginia as opposed to DC or Maryland, and has never been a problem for the past century to half a century, through progressive movements and such. However, ever since the slain of George Floyd and the riots in 2020, there seems to have been a new attempt to pit the blame on the “monuments” that apparently glorize these views, and to radically erase them from history and forget about them once and for all. I seem to check google maps and am seemingly forced to learn new road names Like Langston Blvd in Arlington on a weekly basis. From my perspective, being a native of Fauquier county in southern country Virginia and spending lots of time in rural Loudoun and Prince William county, it’s a great change to what I’m used to.

Why the call for action now? [b]Are we really suppose the blame people whom lived in an era where slavery and segregation was an unarguable stance[/b] that was unanimous among all politicians? What good does it really do, as it seemingly hasn’t seen a decrease in any sort of statistic that they intended to target. Do you support such action against these historical landmarks? Would love to know what the general consensus is, especially from other Virginians. [/quote]

Do you imagine the slaves thought slavery was fine? That if was just part of the culture and not something horrific? Did they not blame white southerners?

Of course they knew it was wrong. So did abolitionists at the time. The "era" is no defense because LOTS of people in that era knew slavery was wrong. The fact you think it was culturally okay at that time us exactly why we need to take down statues and rename public buildings that honor those people.

[b]Plus, no kid should have to go to school in a building named after someone who thought she was property.[/b]

Hilarious that OP's main objection is to having to learn new names. Heaven forbid you have to extend yourself to learn something new! But, somehow, I suspect you weren't this mad when the Fairfax County Parkway got a new route number. [/quote]

DP.  See, this here's your problem.  There are kids today, and there are people in the past.  All of the people in this nation's history, they all made this country as it is today, for better or worse.  But they are not here today.  Whatever they thought or did, they thought or did it then.  We cannot change it, and it cannot change us.

You are saying that the people of today are responsible for the past.  But that's not true.  People today can learn from the past, or can ignore it.  But no one here today is responsible for whatever people did in the past, no one today bears the blame for what people did in the past.

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The Confederates people these buildings are named after are also people from the past.  I think it's weird to say those people made our nation but somehow don't affect us (huh?) but if your point is to leave the past in the past -- great: no problem getting rid of these names, then.

Your paragraph about blame is all you and our projection, I didn't say that and it isn't relevant to whether we name schools after reprehensible people. [/quote]

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