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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Paraphrased but accurate and revealing statements made in this thread:

- My kid's "A"s are valid but other kids are not, grade inflation covid etc.

- My kid deserves to be admitted to colleges X more than the kids who were admitted

- Colleges don't know who they want, they are also incapable of telling one kid from the next

- There is a substantive difference in quality between kids who are admitted and kids who are not

Guys, we all love our kids, and any real or perceived slight against them hurts, and we want them to have everything they want... but these positions above are unfair.[/quote]

Your paraphrasing capabilities are terrible. [/quote]

Really?

[quote]it IS unfair that qualities outside of their control and baseless to achievement are getting prioritized over what should matter and thus impacting your child's results. It's not fair and there is nothing we can do[/quote].

[quote]Covid massively messed with grading, and any sense of the playing field in education.  There are anecdotes (I have seen a few) of public schools simply handing out grades for submitting papers consisting of the same sentence repeated.[/quote]

[quote]Colleges are trying in a very rapidly changing environment to build their brands, and in many cases working to undo the injustices of the past. [/quote]

[quote]Unfair? sure, but the process has always been unfair because it's so loosely tied to the idea of actual merit. [/quote]

[quote]We used to buy into some vague idea of merit: work hard, put your kid in the best school you can (based on their capabilities and yours, including money), kid gets grades and a few banner ECs and success (alas a narrow definition) will ensue. But that's falling apart, and we feel like we've let down our kids who aren't in the currently preferred categories used to social engineer college brands to be closer to what their strategy tells them they want.[/quote]

[quote]If you want a society where outcomes are not driven by effort, stamina and drive; where challenges are all expected to be equalized then there are plenty of socialist democracies that you can join (and I hope you do).[/quote]

[quote]It' has been known that people cheat to get admission slots. It's often done by wealthy people "who know better" but do so anyways to maintain power / privilege. White people checking URM demographic boxes isn't a surprise.[/quote]

[quote]This is contrary to fact. It's been demonstrated that grades and test scores are lower for some student demographics - they are not the same level. The kids are simply not on the same academic performance level.[/quote]

[quote]It is never a good thing when criteria is less about objective measures like test scores and GPAs and more about opaque subjective ones, which can be used to mask a whole host of biases.[/quote]

[quote]It is how "old boys club" employers traditionally kept out women and minorities. (Sure, they may have had better undergrad transcripts, but they just weren't "cultural fits")[/quote]

[quote]f there are problems with tests or GPAs, fix the tests and grading systems.[/quote]

[quote]In the meantime, I'm teaching my kids they have to be much better than the average to have a shot at a school, and even then, it isn't a meritocracy -- so don't stress. The system isn't fair, but life isn't fair. Just focus on controlling what's in your power to control.[/quote]

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