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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The above suggestions are kind of funny to me.

My mother took my goth phase in style - I could wear black lipstick (actually for me it was extreme black eye makeup) when I was not with her or the grandparents. So, fine for school. Same for the "weird" clothes - no fishnets at Sunday dinner at Grammys.

I grew out of it in about 4 years. She DID like the fact that all the thrifting was very cheap!

I know now that I was depressed, but I think that the mild push back from her was actually better than just accepting my rebellion - kept it in perspective. I met great friends during that time period.

An added bonus from a parent's view, is that most of them were straight edge. The parties I went to as a more "normal" teen with the jocks and the popular kids were filled with booze and drugs.[/quote]

+100 hahaha I hung out with the straight edge kids too and ironically we were the good ones

My friends and I  were riot grrrls and didn't give into sex pressure to be sexually active because we knew we controlled our bodies and sought out partners who respected us[/quote]

Straight edge - for those unfamiliar - means absolutely no drugs or alcohol polluting your body.  Not a terrible outlook for a teen!   Have only heard the term straightedge among punk friends.

BTW - skinhead does NOT universally mean racist; i knew numerous Black and brown skin skinheads, and it’s roots lie in [b]early Ska music (ie Gwen Stefanni)[/b] culture.[/quote]

JESUS WEPT[/quote]

I stayed in this thread to post pretty much the same thing. Gwen Stefani (and you probably mean No Doubt really because her solo stuff is no where near it) is NOT early ska. Desmond Dekker, The Skatalites etc. are early ska. 1st wave in fact. Then came the second wave (The Specials, The Selecter etc.) and so on. No Doubt... no. They don't make any waves on the ska scale.

But yes, there are non-racist skinheads (Google SHARPS for example).

I was a goth/new wave/punk kid. I still wear all black. Still listen to goth (old and new) and all of the music I grew up listening to in the 70's and 80's and then the 90's, 2000's to today (gasp, I still listen to new music and see concerts). I'm a successful Vice President. Dressing "goth" does not mean your kid is depressed, suicidal or an outcast - this thread however is depressing with all of it's [i]if your kid doesnt look like a jock or cheerleader there is something wrong[/i] nonsense. Some kids just don't want to march to the beat of anyone else's drum from the music they listen to, to the way they dress.

Now if your child is suicidal or depressed (and NO listening to The Cure doesn't automatically mean they're depressed) it shouldn't matter if they're wearing a pink top or a black one. Get them help.

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