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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That’s the only data I trust at USNWR.  Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools,  and has been an ongoing concern for decades. [/quote]

Sooo....the least informed aspect of the data is what you trust?  The gut feeling of admin about schools -many of which they've barely heard of (and can be influenced by a bottle of hot sauce).   You trust that over research expenditures, faculty accomplishments, student-teacher ratios, students graduating salaries, 6 yr graduation rates etc.    Sure things like yield rates and number of applications can be manipulated through marketing but a ton of other things can't.[/quote]

Thousand of academics respond to the peer reviews.  Data can be as easily manipulated.  For example, student teacher ratios.  There are privates who don’t include grad students in their ratios, as if grad students aren’t using much of the same faculty as undergrad ones. [/quote]

I don't think grad students are used in the ratio by definition.  The bigger manipulation comes on the denominator and how faculty are included in the count (including those that don't really teach undergraduates).  This tends to benefit schools with a large graduate to undergraduate ratios.[/quote]

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