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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You can't just lump all luxury cars together. A mercedes, bmw, or audi (on average - not all models) are going to handle better than a toyota, honda or ford. They have better engines, brakes, and more extensive options that make them not only more comfortable but also safer (again, not always but on average).

OP you sound like my parents. They literally do not understand the difference between my mom's Toyota Sienna and my wife's Audi SQ5. If I drive my mom's van like my wife's SUV, the thing just about flips over around every turn or slides off the road. The same is true of my dad's Honda accord, which isn't even an SUV. I have to be really careful watching my speed around curves in those cars to avoid literally killing myself and the passengers. A couple of close calls I have had to slam on brakes which on our Audi and Porsche would have safely and predictably brought the cars to a halt. On my parents honda and toyota I have experienced not only SKIDDING down the road on the crappy tires and brakes, but nearly losing control of steering because they are just so badly made.

In addition, when I have rented standard Ford and Toyota cars, I find that they become unwieldy at high speeds. A couple of times their steering wheels begin vibrating at speeds over 75mph. They're just not well engineered or intended to be pushed hard.

So, on top of the interiors feeling way nicer and the cars generally being faster and more exciting, there are significantly poorer quality of engineering and technology in non-luxury cars that make for bad driving and dangerous situations. People who have only owned these crappy cars don't understand this because they think it's normal to have to brake 50 feet earlier, watch your speed around a normal curve, etc. It's not normal - it's just because your car sucks[/quote]

I would just add that if you spent your whole life driving a Toyota Camry or a Honda Oddyssey, you likely will never notice the difference if you test drive a BMW or Audi. Why? Because you will drive it like you always have and like your crummy car required you to - no more than 70mph, no more than 25mph around exit ramps, braking 300ft before the car in front of you, etc. etc. It's like asking, "what so good about the expensive bikes they use at tour de france" and then buying one to go joyriding on your cul-de-sac and concluding, "Wow, this is barely different from my Huffy."[/quote]

To add to all of the above, alot of the luxury German manufacturers have engineered the entire chassis, suspension, brakes, engine to all work together in a refined manner. They won't be things you can see and touch, but can feel while driving. The actual "luxury" options such as heated seats, external cameras, keyless entry, blind spot monitoring etc. can be found in many ordinary vehicles such as Hyundais, Toyotas, Hondas. However, the way the car drives and handles, the quality of materials, the sound deadening, engine refinement, seating position are all meant to enhance the driving experience. When you put your foot to the floor in your 4 cylinder Honda/Toyota, you will hear and feel the engine, transmission, and chassis straining to keep up with that input and wondering when you will stop. Its been engineered to take you from point A to point B, but not engineered for your enjoyment. BWMs have hired PHDs specifically to just focus on the ergonomic seating positions of their seats so that the driver does not feel as fatigued or sore after a long drive.

It doesn't mean that everyone will notice or appreciate that experience and that is ok. We all have things we appreciate that has some "artisanal" value whether its a nice handbag, shoes, coffee, meal, or hotel etc. [/quote]

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