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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not sure what you mean by "Do you believe in near death experiences?"  Of course people experience what they experience, so it's like asking if you believe in deja vu.

Now, if you're asking if there's some sort of metaphysical explanation for NDEs, no, there's no evidence for that at all.[/quote]

I am the OP.  You can believe what you want.  My husband is all about science; I'm all about spirituality.  Perhaps there's a fine line?  I'm not sure.  I can, however, say that I've had prophetic dreams - even stupid ones such as dreaming about a cousin shopping for meat at our local market - one I hadn't seen for years - only to see her at that same store the morning of my dream.  I've had death dreams - too many to file away.  And some happened years before the actual death, but the dreams had a context, as in place and time.

There are many studies done on this - people sharing similar experiences.  So yes, you can use science to prove it's a brain's reaction to trauma that all humans share.  But I asked this earlier -  How do you account for NDEs where people meet others they had not met during their lifetime?  not in pictures, not in everyday conversations, not in paintings, etc.  You simply can't.

That's where it's spiritual b/c no scientific study can get to the root of that.

I believe that anything is possible - that we're shells and we're simple beings at that.  Sadly, so many humans think they're the center of the universe.  They believe in a concrete world of boundaries where time limits us.  Time is a construct.  And I bet if we were able to use all of our brain power, we'd see "other worlds" right beside ours!

It's fascinating and actually redefines death for me - asin  not being an ending, but being a new beginning.[/quote]

I think it's touching that you believe all this stuff.  More power to you.  My daughter thinks that rainbows shine out of unicorn horns.  Who am I to disabuse her.  Just saying, most of this stuff is pretty well understood.  I think some people get comfort in believing in things that are obviously debunked by a little rational thought.  That doesn't mean they're "wrong" per se.[/quote]

I always feel sorry for people like you - who can't stretch beyond our "reality." And if the afterlife reflects your current life, I imagine it's like a purgatory - stuck.[/quote]

Funny, I don't feel sorry for you.  I think it's great that you can go through life with that childlike wonder intact.  Since the odds that there's an "afterlife" are staggeringly remote, and it's just as likely that an afterlife would be horrifyingly bad as that it would be marvelously wonderful, I'd just as soon skip it.  In any case, I won't spend a lot of my time worrying about that.[/quote]

Different poster.  How are you so certain that there is no afterlife?  Have you met someone who is dead who confirmed this? It seems to me there's no proof one way or the other.[/quote]

Just to clarify, I didn't say there is no "afterlife", only that it's very unlikely.  Like infitisimally unlikely.  And if there were, it's just as likely to be horrific as blissful.[/quote]

I don't care about who here believes or disbelieves in the afterlife.  The earlier poster described the ability to see into the future.  That flat out defies the laws of physics.  And, if it were true, it would mean that fate, not free will, determines what happens to us.  And that is a pretty damaging blow to Christian religion.

So the way I see it, the poster shot a dart at both science and religion, without even knowing it.[/quote]

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