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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]you can be a "socialist" without being a marxist.  Similar to the socialist parties of western europe, with that failed late 70s early 80s market socialist hybrid.  i.e., t[b]he govt controls the means of production of many industries with much more of a welfare state.[/b]  So yeah, I think Obama is likely that form of "socialist".  He distrusts the markets and finds the accumulation of capital distasteful and inequitable.  [/quote]

Well he has a funny way of showing it, because he did not nationalize the banks like the IMF said he should do.  We capitalized them and pushed the bad ones into the arms of private buyers that were more healthy.  That's the opposite.[/quote]

Don't forget:  he nationalized one of the major car manufacturers...then turned around and privatized it shortly thereafter.

Seriously, I'm curious OP:  Do you actually believe any of this shit, or is it all just a kind of tongue-in-cheek ribbing?  By that I mean, what's your place in the modern conservative movement?  Rube or Huckster?

Obama is essentially a vaguely right-of-center moderate somewhere between Bill Clinton and Bob Dole model.  He's a black George HW Bush.  But the Right has gone to this very odd place where unless their opponents are basically the return of Pol Pot, their politics make no sense anymore.  It must be frightening for any natural conservative with even half a brain in their head.  Isn't it?[/quote]

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