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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What do you all think of this? I think if a female competitor can accomplish this effortlessly and safely it should be qualified with full points.

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It is generally dangerous but she can do it. I don’t really think that there’s going to be an issue with others recklessly attempting it, but on the issue of the double double off beam I fell on the side of either it’s dangerous and ban it or give it a consistent value. I don’t think the “we don’t want to overvalue it because it’s dangerous” argument made much sense. We’ve also seen some really scary falls with athletes attempting double pikes off beam but it’s all been allowed or encouraged so far. Katelyn Ohashi’s foot slipped on a beam dismount (when she was at UCLA), one of the scariest falls I’ve ever personally seen, was totally mishandled in my opinion, luckily she was relatively okay.

If something is dangerous they have to ban it or change the structure to favor connections and consistency (Simone would still win, maybe not by wide margins). Lowballing the value doesn’t really seem to address that issue to me.

On the vault value I haven’t seen as much, I did think it would be higher than a 6.6 (? I think) but [b]there was already a wider issue after 2012 with vault values giving an inherent advantage in the AA to those whose best event is vault since you could achieve scores that weren’t really being seen on say, bars.[/b] I did think there was some argument there, the score distributions should be roughly equivalent across the events for AA purposes, unless someone is an outlier like Simone. But if multiple people are getting scores that you really can’t get on another event, that should be aligned. That’s why the previous “top vaults” were devalued. A 16.1 is going to be untouchable on vault as it is. If she gets a 16 at Tokyo, that will probably be the only one in the entire competition. [/quote]

I'm not familiar with this sport. There are no difficult routines on bars that have been accomplished out of competition that could be equivalent to Simone's Yurchenko move? Routines that would even the playing field as far as points go if accomplished? Or is it that no one is skilled enough in bars to accomplish these routines?[/quote]

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