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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think people are just vaccine hesitant and thats ok.  This is a new vaccine and your mother is not wrong in feeling unsure.

The 2009 swine flu vaccination Pandemrix was given to 60-90 million people and they withheld safety information that it was linked to narcolepsy in children. Dr Fauci was involved telling the public it was safe and for the greater good. It was later banned.
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Thalidomide which was a morning sickness drug given to pregnant women was later discovered to cause miscarriage and birth defects.[/b]

I have had my first dose of the vaccination however even I am uneasy and unsure.  I feel there have been enough doses given now to give fairly decent safety information but I really feel that those people that did the initial testing for the vaccines are heroes.

There are valid reasons why people are hesitant against new medications and vaccinations.  Your mother may later be more comfortable with having it.  I have friends who are refusing and that's their right. I am not anti-vax but I do have fears about this vaccination but I'll take it as I fear Covid more.[/quote]

Were you under the impression that Thalidomide was FDA-approved in the US while the data about teratogenic effects was coming in from elsewhere around the world?  Or are you aware that it was not?[/quote]

My point was that some people are unsure of a new vaccination/medicine and don't want to rush out to have it. My point wasn't what country they were given.  My point was that perhaps older people have seen this before and seen it go badly and are anxious. I gave two examples there are others.  Rather than tear these people down, either work out other solutions to see them or don't see them.  Not every one is anti vax.  All my friends have had other vaccinations however some are worried about this one.  I'm sure that will wear off in time.  Perhaps talk to your mother rather than hysterically labelling her an anti-vax troll and threatening to cut her off.  It seems so extreme.  She may take a risk by not being vaccinated but that's her choice.  I still see my friends and don't have this vehement hatred to cut them off because they are anxious over the vaccination.  I have been able to have neutral conversations with them where we all say how we feel and what we have read with respect.  I can't imagine cutting them off or not seeing them over this.

For the PP that say I am anti-vax if you can read I said I have had my first vaccination.  I am also very aware its a new vaccination and did not have this vaccination as comfortably as I do my yearly flu vaccination.  Some people on this thread are obviously overly anxious and perhaps need some medication to calm down.  Visit her outside or wear a mask, wash your hands.

I have to laugh at 18:14 saying they hate anti vax stupidity and then saying she won't get pregnant soon so doesn't have to worry about autism.  OMG that is stupid, people's concerns can sometimes be more involved than that nonsense.  At least my friends and peers can converse about peer reviewed journal articles and not just assume that any one concerned about new medications is anti vax and worrying about autism. Perhaps talk about it and you may understand her concerns more or cut her off and cut your kids off in retaliation.  You do you.[/quote]

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