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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Cash isn't king, there are too many full pay applicants.  GPA, however, is king...[/quote]

How can something as inconsistent and easily manipulated as GPA be king? Most schools don't even post their average GPA on the CDS and those that do often show that they are reporting for a small percentage of student GPAs, and they don't disclose how they (re)calculated the GPA anyway.[/quote]

Because test optional schools need a way to compare students and most don’t have the resources to know or care about which privates and public are more or  less challenging than others in a random metro area hundreds of miles from their campus. The school will manipulate the GPA Toni weight it or strip PE and art  and to turn it into a class rank of that isn’t provided, but it’s all going to be based off of GPA this year because there is nothing else to compare unhooked kids[/quote]
+1.  High school comparisons and the high school profile only go so far.  I suspect there will be a lot of unexpected results next month.[/quote]

This conspiratorial thinking and these unfounded conclusions are not helpful.  Colleges do know the schools, have a history, and mine data on the success of students from them.  They also know how to read the data from the profile and compare it to other applicants.  They know what they are doing and organizationally they have been doing it a very ling time.

That doesn't mean they are perfect - but it means they mostly won't make mistakes and they will build the class they need.

The main reason for that is that it is pretty easy for them to pick qualified students, and the highly competitive colleges have plenty to choose from.  You've all heard them say they could replace their entire accepted class with the next batch, then do that again, and never notice.  It's been said at virtually every top-20 presentation I have attended.

PP is right.  GPA is king and always will be.[/quote]

Do you really think the the University of Wisconsin has enough applicants from West Potomac High that they have any idea about the quality of the school? Do you think they have the manpower to look into it, or do you think they say 4.6, maybe glance that the data sheet, and move on? These schools are being inundated with applications and they no longer have the easy first cut that SATs and ACTs provide[/quote]

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