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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]no kid wants to learn about his especially in a book they want turkey and stuffing and dessert, lots of dessert. [/quote]

Maybe your kid. Mine love everything about books, especially as a way to explore the world around them or the past.

We are American Indian. We read all sorts of Thanksgiving books. Indians aren't a monolith. My kids are still young, but we have a lot of simpler conversations about Indians (teepees vs long houses, views on land and cultural differences). We talk a lot about how Americans took advantage of the Indians. [/quote]

You mean the NAs that bought sold and kept African slaves?  The NAs that sold land to traders and settlers and then reneged and massacred them, or the Iroquois that pushed the Sioux out that pushed the Cheyenne out that pushed out the Kiowa ?

People are people.   If you look at the truth you’ll see there are no saints just people and cultures in conflict for survival.   The NAs weren’t taken advantage of, they were in conflict and another culture prevailed.  Just as the Mayans and Aztecs “took advantage” of their neighbors before any European set foot in America.

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There are so many holes in this argument that I don't even know where to start. A different NDN here.

Let me start with what you have correct-- people are people everywhere. Yes, there were conflicts in North America long before Europeans arrived. I despise the 'peaceful, primitive, noble trope' as much as the 'savage, barbaric, animalistic' one.

However, this argument you have made is akin to someone saying, "What slavery? You mean those Africans who were already capturing and enslaving each other? What's the big deal?"

Anyone with half a brain would point out that the Trans-Atlantic slave trade was on an entirely new scale of cruelty and suffering compared to the common practice of slavery throughout the world.

The Europeans and then the American Government regularly cheated and broke the treaties they signed (such as a treaty specifying the sale of land that could be covered in three days time-- with both sides understanding that this means a walk, and then the government hiring someone to run the distance to secure 2-3x the amount of land). It is no wonder that after watching this that the tribes began to fight 'dirty' too.

Please. Just read about the bounties set for the scalps of Indians, that people used to be hired to kill as many Indians (please read this: https://www.history.com/news/californias-little-known-genocide), massacres like the Sand Creek massacre (in case you are not going to click-- it was the massacre of a village that was flying the US flag and a white flag of truce, mostly women, children, and men too old to fight killed in cold blood).

What happened to the tribes went far beyond any justifiable 'war'.

Education. It is a great thing.[/quote]

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