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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The videos from Italian hospitals showed many people with clear balloon type equipment over their heads. it was some form of non intubated pressurized ventilation. I have never seen those here but maybe we have them?[/quote]

We don't, they are not FDA approved here, although we do have other forms of NIV that can be used for patients who are not the most severe.  But it he most severe situations, there needs to be more precise control of pressures and of the airway than either a helmet or a mask can provide, so they need to intubate.  [/quote]

Interesting, thanks. They seemed to be using them for cases that needed more than oxygen or a mask but less than a ventilator. Do we have noninvasive mechanical options similar to the helmet?[/quote]

I LOVE the idea, maybe we can have the FDA approve them here. so much cheaper and easier so it seems then a machine. Who knows.. lots of red tape went, so maybe this can get approved too.[/quote]

You do realize that those helmets, or the masks that we use int he US, are attached to the same exact ventilator that people who are intubated are attached to right?  It's not a helmet or a machine, it's a helmet or a mask or endotracheal tube, or a trach tube as a means to interact with the same machine.

And no, they aren't cheaper than an ET tube.  [/quote]

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