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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I love these commenters who are anti bow who think they’re so progressive but are really just misogynistic. If someone posted asking where to find tiny baseball hats for their infant son would you make fun of them and say “ugh, why?” and comment on how unnecessary such an accessory is? No, you wouldn’t. You’ve let society convince you that feminine things are inherently bad or less than masculine or gender-neutral things. Your attitude isn’t doing your daughters any favors. Baby girls can wear bows and still grow up to be scientists and athletes. Expand your mindset. [/quote]

God this is dumb. I don't think there's anything wrong with femininity, but forcing femininity on a baby with an accessory that babies generally find uncomfortable is self-centered and stupid. If the entire purpose of the baseball hat in your scenario is to make sure a *baby* isn't misgendered, that would be equally stupid. [/quote]

Here’s a thought: maybe the bow has nothing to do with proving gender....maybe some people just like bows?! I often put my daughter in shades of blue or black and white with no ruffles or feminine details. Sometimes I put her in pink or a dress. Whether she wears a bow with either outfit depends on the day but doesn’t have anything to do with ensuring her gender is known. I’m not bothered by what other people think she is...I just like accessories. Again,
you and pp can imagine another purpose for a baseball hat besides accessorizing or proving gender (although I can’t fathom someone actually choosing one as a practical means of warmth) so again I think this is a situation of placing weird value on masculine accessories and only seeing the worst in feminine ones. Silly moms and their silly bows. It’s self-hate. You should think about what society has taught you. [/quote]

Would you dress your son in a bow? [/quote]

This. Bows are uniquely worn by women. [/quote]

True.  We live in a society where men and women (and boys and girls) often wear different clothing.  Do you dress yourself exclusively in gender neutral clothing?[/quote]

The point is they were responding to someone saying "the bow has nothing to do with proving gender....maybe some people just like bows".  If it was just a love of bows and nothing to do with gender, that PP (was that you?) would put them on sons too.  That's not what's happening, because it is about gender.  That's the PPs' point.  You haven't disproved it by trying to move the goalposts with this response, just shown you can't follow the thread.[/quote]

DP. I accept your general note that yes bows are worn basically exclusively by girls but that still doesnt mean they are necessarily intended to signal gender. I wear dresses because I like dresses not to inform the world I am a woman. Same for the color purple and other subtle signals I give that communicate my gender. I like handbags and wear them.and the fact that I do makes it clear I am a woman but I am not wearing them in order to.make sure everyone knows I'm a woman.

You're trying to reduce a complicated thing about how we want to present ourselves outwardly as being exclusively tied to gender when in fact we're all trying to communicate our identity, consciously and subconsciously and our gender identity is a part of that and therefore informs our personal likes and dislikes.[/quote]

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