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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just found this forum, been searching for answers on a similar issue. Ran into so many problems this year (5th grade) in school with executive functioning issues. We ended up pulling her out of public school early and putting her in a smaller private school to finish out the year.

Daughter's WISC-IV:

Verbal Comprehension -- 79% (112 standard score)
Perceptual Reasoning -- 99.5% (139 standard score)
Working Memory -- 1% (62 standard score)
Processing Speed -- 58% (103 standard score)

Full Scale -- 75%

Psychologist says largest descripancy she's ever seen in 30 years between two subtests. Teacher kept saying there was "no educational impact" because her grades were good even though they started to drop and she started to fall apart. She's so bright but seems to have a processing overload by the end of the day. Not ADHD, no behavioral issues -- kind of kid that falls through the cracks. Word retrieval issues though. Anyone run into this or have any thoughts? Thanks.[/quote]

Again, it is irresponsible to report a FSIQ with these scores! Why are psychologists doing that? It is like taking the average of 2 and 10 (6) and then saying that 6 is the same as 2 or the same as 10. It does not offer any meaningful information and should not be written in the report. Your daughter is obviously very smart and probably a very hard worker who has implemented some of her own strategies and compensated for her processing deficit, and that is why she does not qualify for special ed. - and why she is so spent at the end of the day. It's great that she has the internal resources to be so academically successful. If she has executive functioning issues, could it be ADD (without the H)? Those are often one and the same.[/quote]

I agree with most of what this poster is saying, but to clarify, the actual research literature on the predictive validity of the WISC indicates that the FSIQ is just as predictive of outcomes in cases where there are discrepancies in the profile. Many psychologists are taught not to interpret FSIQ if there are large discrepancies in the profile (saying it's just the average of different abilities), but the actual research literature does not indicate that FSIQ is more predictive in cases of low scatter. So it is not irresponsible to report it in cases of discrepancy. Here are some references:

http://www.dciu.org/92210219134445660/lib/92210219134445660/Daniel.pdf
http://www.public.asu.edu/~mwwatkin/Papers/FSIQvariability(2007).pdf

I just didn't want anyone to think that their psychologist was not thoughtful about the testing if they did interpret the FSIQ in the context of a discrepancy. [/quote]

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