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[quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous]1)  The NCSL has a great referee feedback program that not enough people know about.  Here is the link:  http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/ncsl-referee-feedback-2018.  I urge all parents to utilize it every game.  That way (hopefully), good refs get rewarded, and bad ones don't.  [/quote]

The link is busted. Do you know if it's anywhere else on the site? I'd be curious to see it now that I've reffed a few games (well, assistant ref). The only controversial call I had was a very close offside call on which I was perfectly positioned. (That's not always the case -- a 15-year-old at full sprint is going to be faster than I am.) But aside from one parent, everyone seemed OK with it. Coincidentally, I wound up chatting with the coach of the affected team a few days later on something totally different, and I mentioned the call. No problem.

[quote] 2) Pay more.   Generally speaking, I've noticed the quality of reffing goes up the more they are getting paid.  NCSL < EDP < DA.  Most weekends I am watching at least one DA game and 2 NCSL games, and the difference in quality is striking.   The DA refs are really quite good, and consistently so (consequently, they get much less abuse, even considering a very amped up sideline atmosphere).  In the NCSL, sad to say but a really good ref is the exception not the rule. [/quote]

I'm trying to remember whether I saw any EDP games pop up in the ref assignor pool this year. I wound up doing a game with a U13 DA team because they entered the WAGS tournament. Parents were ... a little unrestrained in their comments. But I'm certainly not going to be called in to do a full-fledged DA game unless I move up a couple of grades. That would require, among other things, passing a fitness test I would've struggled to pass at age 38, let alone age 48.

The DA is supposed to be developing refs as well as players. Glad to hear they're doing pretty well.

(I'd imagine, though, that the lack of abuse is partially because parents really, really don't want to piss anyone off. Heaven forbid a college coach or pro scout connects an abusive parent with a player who's borderline in that scout's assessment. Coach/scout might decide it's not worth the trouble. The *current* coach might decide it's not worth the trouble. Also, parents who played at a high level are generally calmer, so if the player has the parents' genes, those parents are going to be better than most.)

[quote]Leagues should pay more per game.  VYSA and MYSA should reimburse for the cost of the course and the uniform after a certain number of games.  Make it worth while for more quality refs to take time out of their weekend, and hopefully we can start to be more selective and give the refs who consistently get terrible reviews more free time.
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My club is actually reimbursing me, at least partially. Pretty cool.

Overall, you're quite right about all this. I've done games I shouldn't have done given my inexperience, but we have a shortage. Twice, I checked in the teams and was preparing to be a center ref when the scheduled ref raced to the field, having battled traffic to get there from another assignment.

And I've learned that the ref who is barely moving from the center circle might be doing his fourth game of the day.

Finally, I've learned that the direction of a throw-in is the call that's least worthy of an argument. It's often a difficult call -- the ref may be shielded, and the AR may be trying to watch the ball AND stay even with the second-to-last defender, which is really higher priority. And besides, the team that gets the throw-in often turns it over anyway, at least at the lower levels where you're going to have less experienced players AND less experienced refs.[/quote]

This is the correct website:

reffeedback.com[/quote]

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