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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=SoccerRef][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That’s a very cute sentiment but again how does that make anything better in the moment? If you were giving the ref a rating after the game it’s one thing. But yelling at them during the game? What, are they supposed to be like, “oh crap, random parent, you’re right, let me reverse my call!” No. Because they made a mistake (in your eyes, mind you), they don’t take reffing seriously? Who do you think you are? I’ll say it again: as a parent, you’re inconsequential. You want to talk about owning mistakes? Dude, own your behavior at your kid’s games.[/quote]

Nobody said reverse a call but yelling is always going to happen at every level. That said, quality refs get yelled at less often than bad refs do. [/quote]

It's cute that you think that, as it's not remotely true. [/quote]

Not the PP but I would agree, good refs get yelled at less.

Of course, from your reply it's obvious that you think you're a good ref but since still you get yelled at a lot, you think the statement isn't true.  However, another possible explanation explanation is that despite having reffed for a long time, you're not that good.

Just because someone has been reffing forever does not equate to being a good ref.  In fact, one of the worse referees in Northern Virginia has been doing it for probably two decades and was once the head of referees at a local club but I've lost count of how many horrible, game-changing calls I've seen him make, including several where his ARs told him he was wrong, but he's still  out there, I'm sure thinking he's a good ref.
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This is pretty spot on. The reality there is very little oversight of refs and their quality. Bad refs are needed more than no refs at all and since the overall supply is low there is very little accountability for the actual quality of the reffing. Bad refs just go on thinking the parents are loons and that their reffing is flawless. We all tend to overestimate our abilities, but give a mediocre ref a patch, a whistle and the last word and overestimating ones abilities is amplified. The worst refs I have ever seen all seem to have an ego attachment to the call and themselves. They are supposed to be objective and unbiased but they come into the situation feeling the need to set the tone. These are the refs who always find a way to directly address the parents in almost any way they can from the get go. They like to draw attention to themselves and find it necessary to demonstrate their control of all things in the game by seemingly working their way through the FIFA rule book enforcing obscure rules yet completely missing a goal kick call. This is the ref who feels it is his duty to tell the kids to tuck in their jerseys as some sign of respect. This is the ref who rarely leaves the center circle.

And shockingly the above ref tends to catch the most crap and complains that it is all the parents fault. This is the guy who also feels that there should be zero tolerance while having almost zero accountability.

Advice, ref a good game. Your duty is to the safe, competitive fairness of the players and the game on your field. Nobody is there to watch you ref, nobody is there to throw shade at the ref, nobody is there to bow to you, they are there to watch their kids play soccer. When you learn that the game is about the kids and not you, then you will be focusing on calling the game and not the sidelines. Yes, you will make a mistake and you will hear about it and nothing will stop that but know this, the yelling is about the call, not you personally. If you cannot draw the distinction between a sideline being upset over a bad call and actually being mad at you then you should do something else. [/quote]

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