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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP:  I pulled up TJ’s Naviance.

Average for admits only.

CMU:  average GPA 4.28/ Average SAT 1536

UVA: 4.31/1535

UNC: 4.27/1532

UCLA: 4.35/1541

JHU: 4.38/1550

Georgetown: 4.28/ 1538

Vandy: 4.31 / 1539

LeHigh: 4.13/ 1511.  (#46 on US News)

WM: 4.17/ 1519

VT: 4.16/ 1511

This assumes a very, very rigorous academic load, with math through AP Calc, no academic classes at the school offered below the honors level, and  generally 2-3 years of heavy duty academic summer school.

TJ kids will get in with lower GPAs because of the grade deflation.  This is especially true for UVA, WM and VT.

The fact is, no one has an easy time getting into a top 50 National University or a top 30 SLAC. 
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While I agree that the OP is overreaching and that her child has no chance at top schools, TJ’s Naviance data proves nothing.  The fact is, virtually every student at TJ has a 1500 on the SAT, so showing that as the average for admitted students at these schools is meaningless.  Naviance data for a regular Fairfax County high school for UVA, for example, with no doubt be dramatically different.[/quote]

Yes— TJ will likely skew high on SATs and low on GPA, they don’t skew that high on SATs.  Average SATs are around 1520 most years, but that’s average. If you look at scattergrams, lots of 1570 and higher, and lots on the 1450-1500 range.  It’s fair to say most SATs are above 1400.  But not all.

For example:

2017-2018 common data set

25%-75% SAT UVA:  1310- 1500
25%-75% SAT CMU:  1430-1560
25%-75% SAT Vandy: 1440-1570

UNCs numbers are meaningless because they take 85% of their kids from in state by law.  But conventional wisdom is you need well above 1500 from OOS (my sister is an alum).

TJs SATs are high for UVA, because 350 kids apply, average SAT for the school of 1520.

But outside of that, TJ’s average SATs for admits to top 50 schools are actually within 20-30 points of the 50% mark— and below the 75% mark.  TJ has high SATs, but it takes high SATs to get in to these schools.

And realize that the below 25% are going to be 1st gen, URM, legacies and athletes.

If you want to send a kid to UNC, Vandy or CMU who doesn’t make it past pre-Calc and doesn’t take honors math, you are going to need above a 1500 on the SAT. [/quote]

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