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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Lady, you seriously need help. Get off the wonder analogies and stop trying to label and find fault with othe kids. [/quote] Why? It's a popular movie. Teenage depression is also a serious current issue. Why not discuss it in light of this comment? It's a similar scenario. Auggie had to eat lunch by himself till two kids had the courage to come over to him and befriended him. Plenty of kids noticed him earlier but were indifferent for months. I asked the mom what she would do instead for OP's child. What might make her child notice someone who needs a friend and what might make her DD actually act verses being indifferent. She hasn't answered with any suggestions. First she said her child wouldn't notice someone sitting alone. Then she or another PP said that even if they did notice someone sitting alone and needing a friend, it was too much to ask a 12 or 13 year old to be anything more than indifferent because children are immature, kids are busy, and some adults are also indifferent. Wonder is a very good analogy for discussing social interactions in middle school with kids who don't have a lot of friends and eat alone. OP could write more about her child to get specifics on her particular situation that might better help, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Wonder is still a good analogy for this situation. Do you agree with PP that 12 and 13 year olds can babysit, be counselors in training, spend hours on social media, get pregnant, and loads of other things, but can't have enough empathy at 13 to strike up a conversation with someone they know needs a friend because they are too busy with other things? That makes no sense.[/quote] It is a movie/book. Good lord. Most middle school children are working through or in the early stage of identity formation. Counselors in training??? Do you mean for camp? Most 12 and 13 year olds are good with younger guys. Peers are harder, and you are assuming that OP s daughter engages with peers. One of the most eye opening experiences as a parent can be to watch your child interact with different people when they don't know you're there.[/quote] Yes. Summer camp. On this quote "you are assuming OP's daughter engages with peers" She's at a middle school. Of course she is with peers. I don't understand what your last sentence has to do with OP's daughter or Wonder so I can't even comment on that line. I can only agree that we don't know what we don't know but I haven't been surprised by watching my child interact with different people over the years. I know their strengths and weaknesses and am not surprised by their interactions. I've seen them be thoughtless at times, but over the years they've grown in that area. That's all I can say on that. On these lines though "Most middle school children are working through or in the early stage of identity formation" and "peers are harder" I do have a comment. My kids were taught empathy starting in preschool and from that age through middle school they have always had the courage and understanding to be nice to others even their self identity doesn't match up exactly, they are busy, or they don't see something to gain themselves from the experience. I can't say they've done this for every person they've encountered since I'm not with them all the time and they are children after all and as I mentioned above they have been thoughtless at times, but each year they surprise me with their thoughtfulness in several ways and I have countless examples where they have been inclusive and helpful to people beyond their good friends and family. They've never been too young to exhibit or work on these skills.[/quote]
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