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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]With all this talk of kids with top scores, top grades, and good EC's ABSOLUTELY not getting in to HYPSM -- well, we know that each year, some kids get in from the top privates, RMIB, Blair magnet, as well as the Bethesda public schools, at least.  I thought that at least some of those kids didn't have EXTRAORDINARY awards and EC's, but that it was basically a lottery and so you couldn't count on getting in that way and likely wouldn't.  So could some of you who have had kids get into HYPSM chime in here?  Did each of your kids have that national award or extraordinary EC?  [/quote]

It's NOT a lottery. That is just what is thrown around to make rejected applicants feel better. To answer your question: the kids I know who got in ALL had something. In other words, high scorers with volunteer, school clubs, internships...did not get in. The ones who got in were URM, athletic recruit, talent recruit, intel/seimens winner, presidential scholar. When you have 35K applicants for 1500 spots think about it. They will accept 750 of your kids gender. Out of those 750, 250 will be URM. So now we are down to 500. Out of those 500, 100 will be athletic recruits. Now we are left with 400. Take out 30 for special cases...Malia etc. Now we are down to 370. Gotta take from 50 states and international. So if you are in DC/MD area, you are down to I'd say 30 girls tops....and you know they will have legacy status among that pool, and incredible talent in that pool. And don't forget they like low-income..so they need that from those 30. And they take 40% from private/religious...so that's 12 white girls from private and 18 white girls from public in a very large metro area.[/quote]

OK, even accepting your premises (and I'll note that you left out Asians in your calculations when you got down to the "white girls"), are you saying that those 30 girls are extraordinary on the level of national awards and Siemens winners?  Because it's pretty hard to win a national award -- unless the "national" award is not really that competitive.   How about the kids that are state or regional music or debate or chess winners (not necessarily first place), along with their 4.0 and 1570 SAT and slew of AP's, some leadership positions, some sports etc, -- I consider that good but not extraordinary EC's, and that's what my question is driving at.  I don't know the answer, so I'm not challenging the response, just seeking clarification. [/quote]

Not that PP but our private and highly ranked public schools are filled with legacy to take those 30 spots plus you have schools like TJ and Blair that groom for national and international contests.  And even only 1/3 of legacy get in those Ivy or Ivy like schools.  The state/regional level kids don't cut it at HYPSM if that's all they have and they have to show early love to the others.  To try to make you feel better, once these smart kids get to their colleges, none of this matters any more because the qualities they have are valued at the school they landed at.  So approach that early card with wisdom not illusions.[/quote]

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