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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]from pp who asked for the citation.  I did see the whole thing and don't think it made your point.

Also, it sounds like you are saying that a person who prays frequently is more likely to get their prayers answered than a person who only prays occasionally, when they really want something.  It still sounds like trying to get in good with god so he'll give you more stuff, which makes god sound more human than godly, and not a very nice human, at that.
 
Well, the Bible was written by humans, so it's not so strange that it would reflect some selfish human thinking.[/quote]
Jesus is clear in the Bible that you can come to God the Father only through Him. In Romans 8, we learn that the Holy Spirit prays for us when we pray, and He prays with a perfect understanding of God's will since He is God Himself. So the point of "wearing God down" isn't made, but God does respond when we pray, and since the Holy Spirit is praying for us with this perfect understanding, God is answering prayer in His perfect way. From our inadequate understanding, we may not be getting what we explicitly ask for, but God IS answering our prayer in the best way. I get that non-believers have a problem with this (How can God allow so much suffering and call it good), but the Bible also teaches that there is purpose in suffering. Christ Himself suffered immeasurably -- He died for the sins of mankind. God understands suffering. But we can be assured that your prayers are being answered. This is Jesus's point in Luke 11: God would not give you something bad when you ask for something good; indeed, He gives Himself when you pray. You can pray for wisdom, peace, strength, understanding, patience, love, kindness, all these things, and we are told that God will not withhold these things. We can ask for a job, health, money, a spouse, etc., and these might not be granted. That doesn't mean God is not listening or responding.[/quote]

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