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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'd seriously like to understand the end game to all of this "dismantle the government" ideology that started in earnest with Reagan in the post-Nixon years and has now reached it's logical zenith under Trump.

What will happen when tax revenues are fraction of what we need to maintain the military, infrastructure, and the Boomers begin dying in poverty in mass due to the dismantling of Social Security & Medicare?

I'd love to understand what Republicans want our country to look like once they enact all these policies. What is your vision? Is the point to weaken our country to the point that Constitutional changes are rammed through that fundamentally end "one person, one vote" electoral politics? Perhaps the installation of some sort of hereditary-based political structure?

Will we be able to defend ourselves from foreign invaders with a society that is physically unhealthy/aging, in prison, and with crumbling infrastructure?

I feel like a lot of my Republican friends and Trump can say what they want to do to dismantle government....but have they contemplated what will exist in the aftermath?
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1.  Anyone who already works in government knows that at least 50% of your colleagues are deadwood.  Maybe you are deadwood yourself.  So not "dismantle government" but get rid of deadwood.  Improve efficiency.  Justify your existence.  (Like with the DOE.)  Scary, right, I know?

[b]Except these deadwoods pay taxes, buy products, pay for local schools and in general help the economy. You cut them in such high numbers there will be a deep recession.

Also, if you have time to post on a mom's forum you are very much a dead wood too(Yes you have a job, not a SAHM). If you work in private sector then that means you are a deadwood for your company. [/b]

2.  Trump wants a trillion dollar infrastructure project.  But maybe to pay for it, he wants to get rid of your do-nothing job.  Too bad, so sad.

[b]You can't pay for $1trillion in infrastructure by saving money from paying deadwoods because you only get about half of it effectively after accounting for various tax loss.[/b]

3.  Social Security and Medicare won't be dismantled.  But it has to be fixed.  Democrats haven't offered a viable plan.  Waiting 21 years until the surplus is used up is stupid.  So reform will get done, but liberals won't have a seat at the table.  Too bad again.

[b]republicans talk about SS and medicare for decades but when in power they will increase debt even more by spending on military waste and giving tax cuts to the rich.[/b]

4.  Tax revenues won't go down, they'll go up as the economy expands, perhaps at a somewhat slower pace, perhaps not.  Another ridiculous leftist straw man.  But hopefully the taxes will be used a little more wisely.  It doesn't even have to be used vastly more wisely.  5% more efficient use of tax revenues, overall, would be a huge benefit to the economy.

[b]US economy is well developed and won't grow like china no matter who becomes president because there are structural headwinds with boomers retiring in droves  and not enough talent to replace them[/b]

5.  Republicans don't want "the country" to look like anything.  They want you to have the freedom to live your life the way you see fit within very wide parameters.  But of course, liberals don't like that, because it means they have to leave other people alone to choose how to live their own lives, too.   Only leftists have a grand socialist organizing agenda for how the "country" should "look."  (Like Seattle, I guess.  Or maybe Austin.)

[b]Yeah who is stopping you from living how you want? it is the r[/b]epublicans who want to enforce how to use bathroom, what to do with women's body, who should marry, who should get subsidies and who shouldn't etc.[/b]

6. Hereditary based political structure?

[b]You mean like Papa Bush, Son bush, grandson bush etc.[/b]

7.  One person, one vote?  You mean you're OK with a conservative Supreme Court that doesn't constantly overrule legislation approved by the  majority of the population because they think they know best?

[b] How about we value your vote as only 1/3 of CA voter and effectively disenfranchising you. I am sure you would be perfect with it. [/b]

8.  Now you're worried about foreign invaders?  But not about Islamic terrorism? Not about illegal immigration?

[b] How many have died of Islamic terrorism FROM OUTSIDE post 9/11? These are American muslim radicals. Infact according to FBI stats, the white racist terrorists have killed and committed the most hate crimes and terrorism since then . [/b]

9.  Crumbling infrastructure...well Trump's got that covered, if the liberals don't block him.  A trillion dollars should be enough to get the ball rolling.

[b] And who pays for it? $1 trillion here, increased military spending while simultaneously cutting taxes on the wealthy. This movie was played before and it ended in deep recession in 2008.[/b]

10.  Getting rid of useless government employees who perform no useful function--and there are lots of them--isn't dismantling government.  It's making government better.  Sorry if you're one of those employees honey.[/quote]

[b]If every waste is cut there will be unemployment over 25% because pretty much any government, corporation or any organization has atleast 25% waste and if all of them are cut and replaced, then who will pay taxes and who will pay for their and their family's living?

You know machines can take over and do pretty much any routine job, self driving trucks will replace truck drivers, self checkout kiosks can replace EVERY CASHIER in the nation. Let us cut all the deadwood. Let us see how many in your family will have jobs?[/b]

Different poster but responses in bold above.[/quote]

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