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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Getting so drunk that someone else has to explain what happened to you should be a wake up call to this woman. She clearly has a drinking problem and needs to get a handle on it. Keeping your younger sister company at a frat party is just plain stupid. She clearly went through college and just can't let go or act her age. No, I'm not excusing his act of rape, but I do think that accountability has to be met by all parties involved. Women need to think about their actions,and anticipate possible outcomes, if they are to protect themselves. [/quote]

Wow lots of assumptions there.   I've gotten that drunk before (when in my 20s) and do not have a drinking problem.  I've barely even had a drink since having kids in 2007.  And what's wrong with going to a party with your sister??[/quote]

She went to a party where she had multiple shots and had a history of blacking out while drinking.  That's a drinking problem.  [/quote]

Absolutely no bearing on the fact that a man chose to rape her. Zero. [/quote]

California has equated having sex with a drunk woman and having sex with an unconscious woman.  It's true, had she been awake and drunk, and saying yes, he'd be just as much of a rapist.  Does that make sense?  (Getting blackout drunk and having sex go together.  It's not uncommon.)[/quote]

From the California penal code:

(3)?Where a person is prevented from resisting by any intoxicating or anesthetic substance, or any controlled substance, and this condition was known, or reasonably should have been known by the accused.

http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-261.html

It leaves things in a gray area, since it's based on exactly how drunk the person is whether they are prevented from resisting.  But it's hard enough to prove a rape occurred, that I think the gray area in the law is necessary in order to ever convict.  I'm not a lawyer, though, so it would be interesting if one could weigh in.
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