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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Top 10 or Ivy schools[/quote]

The top10 is the most elite, plus the “bottom” ivies that are almost never in the top 10. 
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The only Ivies not in top 10 are Cornell and Dartmouth. HYP are always in top 5. Penn is 6. Brown is 9.  Columbia is usually there but 12 this year. [/quote]

Brown is also never in the top 10. This year was a fluke for them. It’s HYPSM, plus Caltech, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Columbia, and Penn in some order.[/quote]

And Hopkins has regularly been T10. Agree Brown is not but is close, cornell and Dartmouth have always been bottom of the ivies and not T10. Columbia cheated severely for years and especially with the very-different admit criteria for GS, which for years was not included in cds(the whole Cds was never available), so their position in the T10 is very suspicious and they deserve to stay bumped down, more in the 11-13 position with Brown’s normal spot. [/quote]

AS a Hopkins alum--Hopkins was NEVER in the top 10 until I was in my 40s.  I am in my 50s now.  People fail to see how much DEI and other initiatives bumped the ratings and a whole bunch of other intiatives.

I believe Brown with a 5% acceptance rate and it's focus on undergrads (one of the best at undergrad teaching and one of the happiest) belongs in the T10 for UNDERGRAD.  If we are talking graduate schools, I get it.  Another thing to consider is Hopkins is remaining TO--Brown, Dartmouth, Stanford, Yale, Harvard are all bringing tests back. I don't believe any school which is TO belongs in the T10 going forward.  The playing field isn't equal when you are comparing scores from 25% who submitted scores (only the highest scores) and schools which are throwing up test averages of 100% students reporting. On that note, Georgetown should also bump on as it has always required scores.[/quote]

Hopkins 1983-2007 (never cracked the top 10 with a low of 22):

hns Hopkins University			16	11	14	15	11	15	15	22	10	15	14	14	7	15	16	15	14	14	13	16[/quote]

Who cares? Hopkins vaulted into the top 10 because they switched presidents with a focus on increasing selectivity and because their endowment increased significantly (due to Bloomberg's donations making it an all grant no loan financial aid program over many ivies plus better endowment performance now larger than several ivies like Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell).  It's not a coincidence.  US News places a premium on student test scores, graduation rates, class faculty size ratios.

You're just old.  As for test scores, JHU has had high test scores even before test optional for a long time now:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/08/22/class-of-2023-by-the-numbers/

Again, higher than many other ivies and top 10s back then.[/quote]

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