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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m a D and am voting RFK with enthusiasm. [/quote]
“I’m a moderate dem…” 
“I’m an independent…” 
“I’m a liberal dem…”

Guess what? I’m a R and am voting Biden with enthusiasm. [/quote]

I lean R, but can't vote for Trump, so will vote for RFKJr with enthusiasm.  [b]My best-case outcome is he wins enough electoral college votes to prevent anyone from getting 270, though I doubt that will happen. [/b][/quote]

You realize that the outcome of that will be a Trump presidency, right? The House (even if controlled by Dems) would almost certainly vote for Trump. [/quote]

Yes.  Run a better candidate.  My vote for Kennedy is not an endorsement of anything he stands for, because I don’t expect him to win, and I don't care if he does or doesn’t.   It’s an expression of deep disappointment with both the Ds and Rs for running two tremendously terrible candidates.  [/quote]
“What about me?! I deserve to have everything exactly as I want it! Screw all the people who would be hurt under a GOP regime, screw the end of democracy - I’m [i]disappointed[/i]. No, wait - I’m [i]deeply[/i] disappointed.”[/quote]

Am I supposed to vote in my own best interest?  Or in the interest of others?  I'm confused, because the D posters on here frequently explain that R voters are voting against their interest.  Which I took to mean I should vote in my own best interest.  My own best interest, right now, is joining with what appears to be approx 10% of the country in voting third party as a "none-of-the-above" style vote.  [/quote]

You summed it up perfectly “Run a better candidate” it’s really that simple. They’re just mad because that’s the solution to their  “the sky is falling” problem. Instead, they’ll attack you and those sending a message. You’re the enemy of the day. Do t worry tomorrow it’ll be someone else. [/quote]

What good do you think the message sent will do other than make you feel like you told ‘em. [/quote]

If either the D or R party loses and the consensus opinion within that party is because RFKJr was a spoiler candidate, the “good” it would do is have that party find ways to reach those voters.[/quote]

Did that work when Nader put Bush into the White House?  Did it help our nation ultimately to have GWB in the WH? [/quote]

I see the conundrum for the Democrats.  If you run a candidate that appeals to the middle, then you may alienate the more progressive element, which may run their own candidate (e.g., Nader) and siphon votes.  If you run a candidate that appeals to the progressive element, that may alienate more traditional liberals, and a more middle-of-the-road candidate may appeal to them.

The converse is true for the Republicans but pitting the right-wing populists against the pro-business libertarians.

That's politics.  Compromise is hard.  The party coalitions are fragile. To address your observation re: Nader, I'd say that Nader accomplished his goal of getting the D's to move left on policy --> since the progressives were willing the walk away, they had to be accommodated.

The current parties are choosing candidates to appeal to the farther reaches of their coalitions (i.e., progressive on the left, populists on the right), and risk losing their more mainstream voters.  The only way the Ds and Rs realize they need to accommodate traditional liberals and pro-business libertarians, respectively, is for those folks to vote third party.

Enjoy the game. We'll see what happens in November.[/quote]

Dems have not moved left on policy. What a weird thing to assert.  Nader didn’t do anything except usher in the Iraq war by getting Bush elected. [/quote]

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