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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why can't you Trumpers be happy that Ukraine is winning? That the Soviet Union won't be revived? That this might bring about the end of Putin's regime? That NATO and our western alliances will be stronger because of this? That the U.S. hasn't embroiled itself directly in another foreign entanglement? Trump wanted Europe to start contributing its fair share of the NATO budget. Well, this war seems to have done the trick. It shouldn't matter that it happened under Biden. You should be happy to see an adversary - one that has directly interfered in U.S. elections get its comeuppance.[/quote]

I don't know why you can't accept that people across the political spectrum may have nuanced opinions about the war in Ukraine.  There is zero need to bring the "trumpers" element into it.  You can discuss opinions and ideas without getting personal.  Or can you?[/quote]

It's hard to accept that many of you have nuanced opinions when your party actively aids and abets an insurrection, restricts the rights of others, doesn't see many of us as legitimate members of our society, and actively roots for dictators like Putin and Orban over our own President. I also am old enough to remember the "you are with us or against us" crowd during the build-up to the Iraq war. So, it's rich coming from any conservatives suggesting that anyone to the left of them "accept" nuances to their views. But please, feel free to explain why you're one of the few that doesn't get his/her talking points from Fox News. I'd be happy to hear alternative view points and consider them -- something that I rarely hear from Trumpers.[/quote]

I'm gonna say this real patiently:

There is not "many of you".  There is only one of me.  Everyone else is just like me, only one person with their own views.

I don't have a party.

I am not really a conservative.

It also seems apropros to point out that the hard-on for the invasion of Iraq was displayed universally across the political spectrum, from Fox to MSNBC.  Americans love themselves a holy war.

I am neither a Trumper or a Bidener.

Debate ideas, don't get personal, if you're as old as you say, you ought to be able to.[/quote]

Oh good! Let's hear those ideas then! Do you support the war in Ukraine? I'm not talking flags and other virtue signaling. I'm asking whether you believe that the U.S. should be providing military aid to this country. If not, then I'd be curious why not. Let's ignore how it's played out for a moment.[/quote]

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