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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Someone brought up peer reputation on USNews and I thought I would repost this.

4.9 Harvard MIT Stanford
4.8 Princeton Yale
4.7 Columbia JHU Berkeley
4.6 UChicago Penn Caltech Cornell
4.5 Duke Michigan
4.4 Northwestern Brown Dartmouth UCLA
4.3 Vanderbilt Carnegie Mellon UVA(!)
4.2 Wash U Emory Notre Dame Georgetown
4.1 Rice[/quote]
Public schools get a bump, likely due to research. [/quote]

The public schools on this list are routinely among the best in the country/world. The only reason they don't make the top USNWR lists is because the USNWR rating system that favors metrics for private schools.[/quote]

It certainly isn't all research because schools like UCSD and Washington would be higher.  Those world university rankings tend to be more about research and publications, so you see a number of these schools drop down considerably.  USNWR has favored inputs like resources, and that tends to favor private schools, schools with medical schools or some other big funding source.  I think UCLA has managed to claw its way ahead of Berkeley in the rankings is largely due to having a medical school, which probably has nothing to do with undergraduate education.  Berkeley does not have a medical school and USNWR ranks UCLA well ahead of Berkeley on resources.   If you compare them more directly, though, UCLA does not have better faculty, faculty pay, library resources, rankings in fields, alumni earnings, etc.  It is just a shell game played with resources from the medical school for USNWR.[/quote]

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