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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]so for 12:04 and 12:46, what does the emotional intimacy/connection look like for you? (genuinely asking)[/quote]

I’ve heard it said that women give sex to get love, and men give love to get sex. A generalization, of course, but I find truth in it. When you’re dating, the sex is frequent and hot—men want that to last forever. The level of emotional engagement is usually “hot” too—deep conversation, genuine interest, disclosure,  listening and curiosity. Women want that to last forever. In reality, of course, it all ebbs and flows, and kids, financial and household responsibilities eat up time and energy. But neither person in a couple wants the kind of intimacy they value to dry up entirely, and it’s all too easy to grow resentful when it does—and to think about what you’re not getting rather than how to break the impasse. Chicken and egg. [/quote]
[b]This is definitely one of the worst adolescent theories I've read on this site. You're like one step from becoming an incel, dude.[/b] [/quote]

I disagree. What's adolescent or incel-like about that opinion? PP isn't saying (I don't think) that men don't need intimacy and women don't like sex. Just that one is often a proxy for the other, and both want their preferred form of intimacy to persist over time, which is difficult on both ends. [/quote]

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