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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The post title could be flipped to "Russia has no good options in Ukraine". The article gets into it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-good-outcome-putins-unraveling-100129631.html

Russia already effectively lost the war. Ukraine is destroyed and the people are evacuating (so nobody to rule), and resistance/weaponry will keep flooding in to grind down the Russian army. They've destroyed their own economy and place in the world in order to create a wasteland where their soldiers will keep dying.[/quote]

Exactly. Even if they take Ukraine (and they very well might), then what? Ukraine's wealth is in infrastructure (trashed and flattened) and agriculture (same) as well as its workforce (fleeing or fighting.) A huge amount of people already fled and more will flee. And it's not like Russia has excess population it needs space for so they can be happy about putting that excess population into Ukraine (in fact, Russia itself has arable land that's not used because they don't have enough people to work it.)  A significant amount of people who stay are staying to fight them. The war is costing Putin a fortune at the same time he's tanked his economy and a long-term insurgency which will result if he conquers the place will cost more money that he is not swimming in.

He has wrecked his economy and any hope of most of the world willing to trust him in any sense to conquer a bombed out emptying out place the people of which hate him and will never integrate and will keep on trying to kick him out. He has also united the West in a way nobody has been able to do for as long as I can remember. These are not actions of a rational person in any sense. [/quote]

In one week, they've effectively become a bigger North Korea. Their economy is cut off from the world, their citizens will begin suffering as result and crackdowns (already occurring) will be the norm, their conventional army has been exposed as a joke, and people only really fear their nuclear capability. This will go down in history as one of the biggest (if not biggest by a wide margin) mistakes by a country leader. In one week, he destroyed Russia for at least a generation.[/quote]

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