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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development. [/quote] You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus. I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths. We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher. We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths. The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy. But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns. This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster. [/quote] 650,000 Americans die of heart disease every year. If a million die of this virus, there will be a huge overlap between that 1 million and the annual 650,000 deaths from heart disease (the virus is very bad for those with advanced heart disease). [/quote] Possibly. Or maybe there will be no overlap and we will just lose 15% on top of the other seniors who were already slated. And you aren't counting all of the people in their 50s and 40s who may die of the coronavirus and/or complications and all the other people who die because the hospitals and medical facilities were full and couldn't receive treatment for all of their non-covid medical issues. [/quote] [b]We do know there will be a large overlap[/b] because we know the people who are killed by the virus are primarily elderly (over 70, especially over 80) with multiple chronic health problems. The virus is speeding up their inevitable deaths. It's not and/or. The death rates for those below 70 is far, far lower and practically non existent for those below 50 (there are a few very rare instances). It's why France and Italy are now refusing to treat the very old and sick because they know they are going to die later this year or maybe next year. In a sense it's likely better in the long run for a hard breakout killing more people more quickly over the next two months while the rest get sick and survives and develops the herd immunology. Delaying their inevitable deaths puts additional pressures on hospitals for a longer time and keeps the virus a threat for an even longer period. [/quote] We don't know that. You are 100% speculating. Maybe the seniors who are catching covid are the healthiest, most mobile, and most sociable seniors who would have had another 5 or 10 or more years left to them. That is true of my cousin's great-aunt and uncle in Italy who died of it last week. [/quote]
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