Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:19     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Overall Americans aren’t healthy. It is going to be a sad survival of the physically fit. I hope people stay home.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:19     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.


You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus.

I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths.

We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher.

We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy.

But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns.

This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster.


650,000 Americans die of heart disease every year.

If a million die of this virus, there will be a huge overlap between that 1 million and the annual 650,000 deaths from heart disease (the virus is very bad for those with advanced heart disease).


Possibly. Or maybe there will be no overlap and we will just lose 15% on top of the other seniors who were already slated.

And you aren't counting all of the people in their 50s and 40s who may die of the coronavirus and/or complications and all the other people who die because the hospitals and medical facilities were full and couldn't receive treatment for all of their non-covid medical issues.


We do know there will be a large overlap because we know the people who are killed by the virus are primarily elderly (over 70, especially over 80) with multiple chronic health problems. The virus is speeding up their inevitable deaths. It's not and/or. The death rates for those below 70 is far, far lower and practically non existent for those below 50 (there are a few very rare instances). It's why France and Italy are now refusing to treat the very old and sick because they know they are going to die later this year or maybe next year.

In a sense it's likely better in the long run for a hard breakout killing more people more quickly over the next two months while the rest get sick and survives and develops the herd immunology. Delaying their inevitable deaths puts additional pressures on hospitals for a longer time and keeps the virus a threat for an even longer period.


We don't know that. You are 100% speculating. Maybe the seniors who are catching covid are the healthiest, most mobile, and most sociable seniors who would have had another 5 or 10 or more years left to them.

That is true of my cousin's great-aunt and uncle in Italy who died of it last week.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:18     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.


You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus.

I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths.

We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher.

We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy.

But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns.

This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster.


650,000 Americans die of heart disease every year.

If a million die of this virus, there will be a huge overlap between that 1 million and the annual 650,000 deaths from heart disease (the virus is very bad for those with advanced heart disease).


It’s actually estimated to be 2.2 million over May and June if we keep half-a’ing the social distancing. 44,000 per state or an entire good sized town in every state.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf


Take a long look at the table on page 5. A long, hard look at those figures and numbers.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:16     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.


You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus.

I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths.

We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher.

We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy.

But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns.

This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster.


650,000 Americans die of heart disease every year.

If a million die of this virus, there will be a huge overlap between that 1 million and the annual 650,000 deaths from heart disease (the virus is very bad for those with advanced heart disease).


Possibly. Or maybe there will be no overlap and we will just lose 15% on top of the other seniors who were already slated.

And you aren't counting all of the people in their 50s and 40s who may die of the coronavirus and/or complications and all the other people who die because the hospitals and medical facilities were full and couldn't receive treatment for all of their non-covid medical issues.


We do know there will be a large overlap because we know the people who are killed by the virus are primarily elderly (over 70, especially over 80) with multiple chronic health problems. The virus is speeding up their inevitable deaths. It's not and/or. The death rates for those below 70 is far, far lower and practically non existent for those below 50 (there are a few very rare instances). It's why France and Italy are now refusing to treat the very old and sick because they know they are going to die later this year or maybe next year.

In a sense it's likely better in the long run for a hard breakout killing more people more quickly over the next two months while the rest get sick and survives and develops the herd immunology. Delaying their inevitable deaths puts additional pressures on hospitals for a longer time and keeps the virus a threat for an even longer period.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:15     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:The praise for China irritates me. They STARTED this mess. I don’t care what they are doing now. Have you forgotten the mass graves? The shut down of timely information?


who’s praising china? it’s not praising china to realize that they did some effective things.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:15     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.


You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus.

I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths.

We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher.

We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy.

But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns.

This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster.


650,000 Americans die of heart disease every year.

If a million die of this virus, there will be a huge overlap between that 1 million and the annual 650,000 deaths from heart disease (the virus is very bad for those with advanced heart disease).


It’s actually estimated to be 2.2 million over May and June if we keep half-a’ing the social distancing. 44,000 per state or an entire good sized town in every state.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:08     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.


You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus.

I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths.

We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher.

We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy.

But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns.

This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster.


650,000 Americans die of heart disease every year.

If a million die of this virus, there will be a huge overlap between that 1 million and the annual 650,000 deaths from heart disease (the virus is very bad for those with advanced heart disease).


Possibly. Or maybe there will be no overlap and we will just lose 15% on top of the other seniors who were already slated.

And you aren't counting all of the people in their 50s and 40s who may die of the coronavirus and/or complications and all the other people who die because the hospitals and medical facilities were full and couldn't receive treatment for all of their non-covid medical issues.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:05     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.


You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus.

I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths.

We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher.

We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy.

But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns.

This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster.


650,000 Americans die of heart disease every year.

If a million die of this virus, there will be a huge overlap between that 1 million and the annual 650,000 deaths from heart disease (the virus is very bad for those with advanced heart disease).
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:04     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anybody have info on how the hospitals are doing? Are any getting overloaded?


No. Cause they’re not. Not here at least


Big shortage of PPE. Elective cases are getting cancelled in order to conserve them. Elective means all kinds of things, like that knee replacement you finally got on the schedule for 4 months ago and you can barely walk.


WHY do we already have a shortage of PPE when there are so (relatively) few Coronavirus cases? Honestly that is pretty disgraceful.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:03     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.


You are hoping in vain. If we don't lock down our country, more than a million Americans will die of this virus.

I didn't take this seriously until a week ago when it started to become clear that the numbers were increasing exponentially, as they did in Italy, which is both locked down and has an extremely high number of cases and deaths.

We are a much larger country. The death count will be much higher.

We all have to stay inside and stay away from others. It's painful for everyone, moreso for the poor and elderly, but we need to reduce the number of cases and deaths.

The Orange Idiot said this was going to go away by magic by April 1st. He called it a Democratic Hoax. He refused to do what needed to be done to prevent exactly what's happening here now, despite very good models in South Korea and Hong Kong, and the disaster unfolding in Italy.

But the OI lied and lied and lied to the American people, fiddling while Rome burns.

This is an unprecedented health and economic disaster.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:02     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anybody have info on how the hospitals are doing? Are any getting overloaded?


No. Cause they’re not. Not here at least


Big shortage of PPE. Elective cases are getting cancelled in order to conserve them. Elective means all kinds of things, like that knee replacement you finally got on the schedule for 4 months ago and you can barely walk.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:01     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The praise for China irritates me. They STARTED this mess. I don’t care what they are doing now. Have you forgotten the mass graves? The shut down of timely information?


It's attitude like yours that is to be partially blamed for where we are. Who cares who started it at this point??? Who cares if it's from a communist country or not?

It's here, we DO NEED TO CARE of what they are doing now and learn from their mistakes. Follow the science and not politics!


They have had very sweet trade deals in the past. They also are threatening us again. They steal our technology. They send spies. They threaten us with EMPs

It matters.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 14:01     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The praise for China irritates me. They STARTED this mess. I don’t care what they are doing now. Have you forgotten the mass graves? The shut down of timely information?


OMG for real. I mean I get it, they are doing good things, but when you just share the good things you're playing right into their authoritarian hands. Let's not forget the disappearing journalists, for one.

China is trying to convince people it was the US military that started in China. Full circle finger pointing.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 13:59     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:The praise for China irritates me. They STARTED this mess. I don’t care what they are doing now. Have you forgotten the mass graves? The shut down of timely information?


It's attitude like yours that is to be partially blamed for where we are. Who cares who started it at this point??? Who cares if it's from a communist country or not?

It's here, we DO NEED TO CARE of what they are doing now and learn from their mistakes. Follow the science and not politics!
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2020 13:57     Subject: CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

Anonymous wrote:Anybody have info on how the hospitals are doing? Are any getting overloaded?


No. Cause they’re not. Not here at least