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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]She is not a particularly talented singer but she has managed to become very talented in writing breakup songs that appeal to teens. She has surrounded her herself with a good team and has parents with connection and money and the willingness to back her.

Fame and fortune is a bit random. It isn't directly connected to skill or talent or even effort. Most of it is luck plus having the right people around you and the money and connections to make it happen. If you look back over history, this is nothing new.

She is the Kardashian of music. Kind of why she fights with them so much.  They both created products that sold and had the people around them to make it all happen. [/quote]

Minimizing her career and what she’s accomplished this way is crazy. Just screams insecure. [/quote]

I am not minimizing her success. She has been wildly successful. I just don't think that everyone who is successful achieved that success on talent, including Taylor and many others. I can find 100s of better singers on youtube, talent wise. They aren't wildly successful but when it comes to music talent, they have it. Talent and success aren't directly linked. Just like I don't think the Kardaishains are all that talented despite also being wildly successful. Once you are a product or brand and have success with that product/brand, you can sell anything and it will be bought, no matter what quality it is. Be it an album or a lipstick or a perfume.[/quote]

Almost every artist in the world disagrees with you. She writes around songs she plays her own music. She does four hour concerts.

She’s not a brand she’s Amazing[/quote]

I think you mean every tween and teen disagrees. Millions of people write and sing their own songs  - probably hundreds of millions - and would play four hour concerts if given the chance. No one with exposure to actual music nor many artists think she is anything but a sucessful brand. Sure 12 year olds think Taylor is the greatest ever and that is due to her talent. Go listen to some R and B and Jazz singers and then come back and tell me that "Shake it Off" is the peak of musical genius and talent.[/quote]

No, real artists think she’s unbelievably successful. Billy Joel, Paul McCartney, rock bands are amazed at her ability to write songs, perform, play instruments.

my son is a jazz pianist. Jazz musicians, love her music.

Even John Baptiste writes some “shake it off” types of songs.

Also there’s no musician on the face of the earth that doesn’t have a couple songs that some people don’t like.

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Where is the space for people who hate her talk singing? Cause I need to be in it. 
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You can hate anything you want. Go for it. Talk about your own experience but stop trying to be the mouthpiece for a whole host of people you don’t know.

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